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Rob,
If you can catch the job while it is hung up and display it, the program
stack would help track down the issue.

John Brandt 
iStudio400.com 
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Home of iS/ODBC - MSSQL access from iSeries and RPG. 




-----Original Message-----
From: rob@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:rob@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 2:07 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: CODING that locks backup


Thank you.

Obviously wasn't it for our case:
PTF status . . . . . . . . . . . . . . :   Temporarily applied
Status date/time . . . . . . . . . . . :   07/24/04  11:18:53 

Rob Berendt
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Dept 01.073
PO Box 2000
Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
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Problem Summary
*********************************************************
* PROBLEM: (SE15861) Licensed Program = 5722SS1         *
*          Looping Condition                            *
*********************************************************
* USERS AFFECTED: All OS/400 iSeries NetServer users    *
*                 for 510/520.                          *
*                 All i5/0S iSeries NetServer users for *
*                 530.                                  *
*********************************************************
* RECOMMENDATION: Apply PTF SI14245 for 510.            *
*                 Apply PTF SI14301 for 520.            *
*                 Apply PTF SI14265 for 530.            *
*********************************************************

Or, if you want the long, long version, it could be any one or combination
of these:

 PTF Release Abstract 
 SI05670 520 OSP-MSGMCH0601-F/QPWFSRP QZLSFILE WHEN EXIT PGM REGISTERED 
 SI15854 520 OSP-MSGCPIB683-RC6 RC3423 NETSERVER FAILS TO START
 
 SI15927 530 OSP-MSGCPIB683-RC6 RC3423 NETSERVER FAILS TO START
 
 MF29878 510 LIC-JOB QZLSFILE USING HIGH CPU AND CANNOT BE ENDED 
 SI07504 510 OSP-DB-JRN-WAIT Jobs waiting in MTXW and LCKW in QJOGENJD 
 MF29546 520 OSP QZLSFILE JOB WILL NOT END 
 SI07503 520 OSP-DB-JRN-WAIT Jobs waiting in MTXW and LCKW in QJOGENJD 
 SI14301 520 OSP-LOOP QZLSFILE JOB LOOPING AND MAY NOT END
 
 MF26269 440 OSP AS/400 NETSERVER HAS SLOW DOWN OR FAILS TO RESPOND 
 MF25212 440 LIC NETSERVER DIRECTORY LISTING DOES NOT SHOW ALL FILES 
 MF24644 440 LIC-SRCB6000317 SYSTEM FAILED VIEWING QOPT FILE WITH NETSERV 
 MF30816 510 LIC - NETSERVER TEMPORARY STORAGE LEAK 
 MF29011 510 OSP QZLSFILE JOB WILL NOT END 
 MF30248 510 LIC TEMPORARY STORAGE LEAK IN NETSERVER AND FILE SERVER 
 MF30682 520 LIC - NETSERVER TEMPORARY STORAGE LEAK 
 SI14265 530 OSP-LOOP QZLSFILE JOB LOOPING AND MAY NOT END
 
 MF22737 440 LIC - QZLSFILE JOBS WILL NOT END OR IN CONTINUOUS RUN STATUS 
 MF23103 440 LIC - QZLSFILE JOBS TAKE LONG TIME TO END 
 SI14802 520 OSP-INCORROUT QP0LROR API returns incorrect reference counts 
 MF23155 440 LIC - NETSERVER RETURNS PARTIAL LIST AFTER USING MSWORD 
 SI14245 510 OSP-LOOP QZLSFILE JOB LOOPING AND MAY NOT END
 
 MF24541 440 F/QPWFSRP-MSGMCH0601 IN AS/400 NETSERVER QZLSFILE JOB 
 SI10956 520 OSP File Server copy fails when target location is a dir
 
 MF23435 440 LIC 16BIT APPLICATION RECEIVES FILE LOCK ERRORS FROM NETSERV 
 MF23529 440 LIC-INCORROUT UNREADABLE DATA USING TEXT CONVERTING SHARE 
 SI13248 520 OSP-MSGCPDA0A9-RC6 UNABLE TO ACCESS IFS DIRECTORIES
 
 MF29657 520 LIC WINDOWS 98 ACCESSING ISERIES NETSERVER HANGS 
 MF26268 440 OSP AS/400 NETSERVER HAS SLOW DOWN OR FAILS TO RESPOND 
 MF25092 440 LIC-INCORROUT WIN2000 MSBACKUP TO AS/400 NETSERVER 
 MF23071 440 LIC-COMM-TCPIP NETSERVER DEVICE DOES NOT EXIST ON THE NETWOR 
 MF23039 440 OSP-SRCB6005121 NETSERVER STACK CORRUPTION 
 MF23339 440 LIC-MSGMCH3601 BROWSING NETSERVER DRIVE WITH ADOBE 
 MF24608 450 OSP-SRCB6005121 AS/400 NETSERVER STACK CORRUPTION 
 MF24433 450 LIC-MSGMCH3601 BROWSING NETSERVER SHARE WITH WINDOWS NT 
 MF22283 440 LIC-INCORROUT SOFTWARE PROBLEM IN QPWFSRP 
 MF24831 440 LIC-UNPRED SRCB6005121 DURING AS/400 NETSERVER OPERATION 
 SF60551 440 OSP HUNG JOB WHEN USING DRAG AND DROP TO COPY DIRECTORY TREE 
 MF23940 440 LIC-MSGMCH3601 BROWSING NETSERVER SHARE WITH WINDOWS NT 
 MF25236 450 LIC-INCORROUT WIN2000 MSBACKUP TO AS/400 NETSERVER 

John Brandt 
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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:50 PM
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Pray tell - which PTF's?

Rob Berendt
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Kendallville, IN 46755
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It is the network neighborhood support that is hanging. PTF's will fix it.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Dwayne Allison [mailto:Dwayne.Allison@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:36 PM
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Subject: RE: CODING that locks backup


Thank,

This is all we got from the job log.  I glad someone works at a company 
that
think backup is important.  We have the "As long as I don't have to do it,
but when I have to do it we need it fixed" method.


I tried to get to the website, but I guess I am blocked.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Elvis Budimlic
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:09 AM
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Subject: RE: CODING that locks backup


Dwayne,

Did you copy this off of the job's call stack?  If you did, can you 
include
the entire call stack and post it here?

At the first glance I'd say it may be related to IFS processing somehow. I
remember seeing some errors with FSNewConversation relating to IFS 
(perhaps
home-built NetServer exit point program?).

I found an APAR mentioning FSNewConversation but am not sure if it 
directly
relates to what you are seeing:
http://www-912.ibm.com/n_dir/nas4apar.NSF/1be1a5b61b213a6c86256c23007048f4/4


059ca8f296f0c0c86256ea6004f1923?OpenDocument&Highlight=0,fsnewconversation

BTW, three months to find the lock culprit seems excessive (unless I
misunderstood the timing, then I apologize for this comment).
<commercial >
Company I work for, Centerfield Technology, has a lock/DETECTOR tool that
could have helped you track the culprit much sooner.
</commercial>

HTH, Elvis.

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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dwayne Allison
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:37 AM
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Subject: CODING that locks backup

Hello All,

About three month ago I put a backup monitoring program in place.  This 
was
great because every night the backup would get locked and by the time we
found out it was to late to run the nightly cycle.  To make a long story
short we still have locks and we finally found out what was doing it.

There's a program running on the system that has some code we don't
understand.  Can anyone help us out before we end the jobs.

The code is :

send_query_w_res_send__FP9MX_work_sPci

FSNewConversation__FP9FS_ReqRep



Thanks


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