Re: ILE in Default Activaction Group -- MIDRANGE-L

Mark,

  Actually, your example is excellent.  I have had an instance where an Opnqry 
was 
performed in an opm clp (in the default activation group) where the open was 
shared to
an ile rpg which was apparently compiled with default activation *no. Overscope 
*job amd Openscope
*job had to be brought into play.  

  We are currently not taking full advantage of ILE capabilities in most 
applications.  However,
that could change as we go. 

  I am currently researching what I might suggest as standards since we have 
some developers that
have begun to use binding/linking of modules.  Having a mixture of activaction 
groups does take
some consideration and Its the simple problems that usually get me.

Thanks,
Vance
Devon Energy
  
--- MWalter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> 
> Depends. If you have an override, that specifies SHARE(*YES) as a prelude
> to an OPNQRYF statement running in the default activation group, but you
> have a program that is not running in the default activation group reading
> that file, and your CFO gets invalid numbers from that report, well, you
> may wish that the sky was falling.
> 
> Stupid example, I know. But you really should research this. Sounds like
> you are running RPG 4 programs, not ILE Programs. To take advantage of the
> true benifits of ILE, i.e. Modular design, service programs, binding
> directories, etc, etc, etc,  you need to not run your programs in the
> default activation group.
> 
> But this requires planning and research in understanding how activation
> groups work.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark
> 
> Mark D. Walter
> Senior Programmer/Analyst
> CCX, Inc.
> mwalter@xxxxxxxxxx
> http://www.ccxinc.com
> 
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> Colin,
>   Thanks for the feedback.  Before I start the crying the sky is falling at
> my shop I want to make
> sure that I have not been mislead.  Based on the feedback I have heard
> spontaneous decapitation
> won't occur to ile programs in the default activaction group.  I think
> caution might
> be the order of the day.
>  Thanks Again,
>  Vance
>  Devon Energy
> 
> --- colin williams <colin.williams@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > Vance,
> >
> > apparantly the world will come to an end if you run ILE programs in the
> > default activation group.
> >
> > But, I do this all the time and have yet to see a problem.
> >
> > cheers
> > Colin.W
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Vance Stanley" <w_vance_stanley@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 5:08 PM
> > Subject: ILE in Default Activaction Group
> >
> >
> > > This is probably a tired subject so forgive me..........
> > >
> > >  I am working in a shop where it appears that most ILE programs are
> > running in the Default
> > > Activaction group.  I was at the IBM Technical conference in Las Vegas
> A
> > week ago and attended a
> > > class that indicated that unpredictable results could occur if you run
> ILE
> > in the Default
> > > activation group.  I have also heard that performace issues can arise
> as
> > well.  Has anyone run
> > > into problems running ILE in this manner?  Just a note we are not
> > utilizing much object linking.
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