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If you already journal all PFs and APs, you are using the same vehicle that
SMAPP uses.  SMAPP just makes that protection better.  Journaled APs will
be rebuilt prior to ones only protected by SMAPP.

Al

Al Barsa, Jr.
Barsa Consulting Group, LLC

400>390

"i" comes before "p", "x" and "z"
e gads

Our system's had more names than Elizabeth Taylor!

914-251-1234
914-251-9406 fax

http://www.barsaconsulting.com
http://www.taatool.com
http://www.as400connection.com



                                                                           
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If your shop already journals all PF's and AP's, are there still good
reasons to use SMAPP?

Glenn Birnbaum
Platform Engineering, REI
253-395-8206
"Get Outside Yourself":  http://www.rei.com


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You set System Managed Access Path Protection (SMAPP) with the EDTRCYAP
command by ASP.  You specify the time that you are willing to wait, and
it does the rest.

Al

Al Barsa, Jr.
Barsa Consulting Group, LLC

400>390

"i" comes before "p", "x" and "z"
e gads

Our system's had more names than Elizabeth Taylor!

914-251-1234
914-251-9406 fax

http://www.barsaconsulting.com
http://www.taatool.com
http://www.as400connection.com





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SMAPP?  That's a new one for me.

How do we know if it's on, and how do we control it?

We've come a LOOOOONG way since S/38 days.


Thanks,

Ron Adams
Information Technology Group
Crane Valves
9200 New Trails Dr. Suite 200
The Woodlands, TX 77385





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Do you have SMAPP turned on?  The default is yes.

Shipped recovery time limits are:

V4R5  90 minutes
V5R1  90
V5R2  70
V5R3  60

If you have it turned off, you need to find and maim whoever turned it
off.

On a System/38, I had a system that took 15 days!

DSPRCYAP is the command that will tell you where you are at.

Al

Al Barsa, Jr.
Barsa Consulting Group, LLC

400>390

"i" comes before "p", "x" and "z"
e gads

Our system's had more names than Elizabeth Taylor!

914-251-1234
914-251-9406 fax

http://www.barsaconsulting.com
http://www.taatool.com
http://www.as400connection.com




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One of our AS/400 (2way, 820, 900 gid, 8gig mem) went down due to a
power supply hardware failure. IBM has replaced the part and performed
an IPL. It's been 4hrs since then, and the system is still performing
index path recovery. Is there anyway to expedite this process. We have
one file about 100Gig, we don't care if the logical files are corrupted
or not.

Thanks, Wes




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