RE: Confused about printing

Loyd.

Excuse the redundancy but the inclusion of both printer device descriptions
has thrown me off.

So if you take an *IPDS spool file and print it to WV17 it prints
differently than the same spool file created as *AFPDS and sent to the same
WV17 printer.

Note: I would expect the same spool file printed to WV17 and WV17HPT to
print differently.  That's simply a limitation between the *AFPDS to HPT
conversion.

Charles


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Goodbar, Loyd (ETS - Water Valley) 
> [mailto:LGoodbar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 2:26 PM
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject: RE: Confused about printing
> 
> 
> Yes. When printing the IPDS vs AFPDS version of the same 
> print file on the
> same printer (IBM 4312), the IPDS barcodes are thinner.
> 
> Device description details: WV17 (IPDS)
> Device class: *LAN
> Device type: *IPDS
> Device model: 0
> LAN attachment: *IP
> Advanced function printing: *YES
> Port number: 5001
> User-defined object: QGPL/WV17 *PSFCFG
> Manufacturer type and mode;: <blank>
> System driver program: <blank>
> 
> Device description details: WV17HPT (HPT only)
> Device class: *LAN
> Device type: 3812
> Device model: 1
> LAN attachment: *IP
> Advanced function printing: *NO
> Port number: 5001
> User-defined object: *NONE
> Manufacturer type and model: *IBM4312
> System driver program: *IBMPJLDRV
> 
> When printing to most of our IBM printers, the IPDS file 
> prints correctly.
> On the 1140, the file prints wider bar codes. On the 1352, it 
> prints the
> same as the 4312. It could be the *PSFCFG is different on the 1140...
> 
> I need to dig more but this is the difference I've seen so far.
> 
> Loyd
> 
> Loyd Goodbar
> Senior programmer/analyst
> BorgWarner
> E/TS Water Valley
> 662-473-5713
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CWilt@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:CWilt@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 11:56
> To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Confused about printing
> 
> Loyd,
> 
> Do you mean that they print fatter as *AFPDS than *IPDS on 
> the same printer?
> 
> Charles
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Goodbar, Loyd (ETS - Water Valley) 
> > [mailto:LGoodbar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 9:35 AM
> > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> > Subject: RE: Confused about printing
> > 
> > 
> > Changing the printer file from *IPDS to *AFPDS works. 
> > However, there must
> > have been some catch between IPDS and AFPDS, because the 
> > barcodes print
> > "fatter" through AFPDS than IPDS does. 
> > 
> > We also noticed this when we tried to print the spooled file 
> > as IPDS on
> > another IBM printer with IBM IPDS installed. The barcodes are 
> > thinner on the
> > 4312/17/24 model printers than on the two 1140 printers we 
> > have, or any
> > other printer (HP) with IPDS capability. 
> > 
> > The short story is, yes it works, but I need to rearrange everything
> > horizontally in the printer file to accommodate for the 
> > fatter barcodes, as
> > well as reduce the barcode ratio from 3 to 2. Somewhere I 
> > remember that 3 is
> > the correct ratio, but the barcodes are too wide!
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Loyd
> > 
> > Loyd Goodbar
> > Senior programmer/analyst
> > BorgWarner
> > E/TS Water Valley
> > 662-473-5713
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Goodbar, Loyd (ETS - Water Valley) 
> > [mailto:LGoodbar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 14:58
> > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> > Subject: RE: Confused about printing
> > 
> > OK, thanks! I will try this in test tomorrow. (Too many fires 
> > right now!)
> > 
> > Loyd Goodbar
> > Senior programmer/analyst
> > BorgWarner
> > E/TS Water Valley
> > 662-473-5713
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: CWilt@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:CWilt@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 13:25
> > To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: Confused about printing
> > 
> > Loyd,
> > 
> > Host Print Transform (HPT) can't handle *IPDS spool files.  
> > You need to
> > change the spool file to *AFPDS.
> > 
> > Leave the printer *DEVD alone.  You don't need AFP(*YES) when 
> > the printer is
> > using HPT.
> > 
> > In other words, HPT can't do *IPDS to ASCII.  But it can do 
> > *AFPDS to ASCII.
> > 
> > HTH,
> > Charles
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Goodbar, Loyd (ETS - Water Valley) 
> > > [mailto:LGoodbar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 12:04 PM
> > > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> > > Subject: Confused about printing
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I have an IBM 4312 printer I'd like to replace with a Dell 
> > > M5200. Using the
> > > recent "Help! Best Host Print Transform for Dell W5300 
> > > Printer" thread as a
> > > guide, I have set up the Dell as a *LAN/3812 with host print 
> > > transform and
> > > using the *IBMPJLDRV system driver. Currently no workstation 
> > > customizing
> > > object, user defined object, or data transformation program.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > I was under the impression I was able to print IPDS spooled 
> > files with
> > > barcodes to this printer, but the system holds the file. 
> > > Also, printing
> > > reports with MULTIUP(2) doesn't; it prints spooled files as 
> > > if the multiup()
> > > were not specified.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Somewhere else I read I could use the barcodes if I 
> > > recompiled the DDS using
> > > spooled file type AFPDS. However, I can't seem to get the 
> > > Dell printer to be
> > > an AFP capable printer with a device class of *LAN and type 3812.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Is there a "simple" matrix of which spooled file types work 
> > with which
> > > printer types?
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > I have two goals with the Dell printer: 1) Support printing 
> > > of bar codes -
> > > how? What's the proper non-IPDS setup for the printer? 2) 
> > > Support printing
> > > of regular spooled files with MULTIUP(2). Is this an 
> > > IPDS-only function or
> > > is this supported with HPT?
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Loyd Goodbar
> > > 
> > > Senior programmer/analyst
> > > 
> > > BorgWarner
> > > 
> > > E/TS Water Valley
> > > 
> > > 662-473-5713
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
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