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Design Change Request.

Rob Berendt
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Group Dekko Services, LLC
Dept 01.073
PO Box 2000
Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com


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Pardon my ignorance, but what is DCR?

jte

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-
> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of rob@xxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 2:44 PM
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject: RE: Adopted authority vs profile switching
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>
> Maybe it's time to just try the DCR and see if I get shot
> down it flames?
>
> Rob Berendt
> --
> Group Dekko Services, LLC
> Dept 01.073
> PO Box 2000
> Dock 108
> 6928N 400E
> Kendallville, IN 46755
> http://www.dekko.com
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> Rob,
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> > But they've already introduced that security exposure by
> > supporting
> > profile switching.  So why not just have adopted
> authority
> > work in the
> > first place?
>
> Again,  I don't see profile swapping as a security
> exposure all by
> itself, but maybe we can just agree to disagree on this
> point as it's
> not central to either of our arguments.
>
>
> > I understand what you are saying about changes breaking
> > other code.  But I
> > don't find that applicable in this case.  I can already
> > create a program
> > that does a CALL QCMD, owned by QSECOFR and any user can
> > run it and then
> > execute the following command:
> > CRTUSRPRF USRPRF(DELME) USRCLS(*SECOFR)
> > But they can't run this command:
> > CRTUSRPRF USRPRF(DELME2) USRCLS(*SECOFR) GRPPRF(SSA)
> > OWNER(*GRPPRF)
> > CPF9802-Not authorized to object SSA in QSYS.
> > But then user DELME can sign on and do CHGUSRPRF DELME
> > GRPPRF(SSA)
> > OWNER(*GRPPRF)
>
> The argument against breaking code goes something like
> this...
>
> If I wrote an adopted authority program that does not
> allow my users to
> have access to Group profiles (and in fact I'm counting on
> this
> behavior), and then IBM changes the basic behavior to
> "fix" this aspect
> of adopted authority so that users now have this ability,
> a potential
> security exposure is introduced.
>
> I don't like this argument, in fact I can cite at least
> two current
> examples where some section of IBM code doesn't subscribe
> to their
> S.O.P, but because it's been that way for a couple of
> releases the
> developers are fighting making changes.  I have pretty
> compelling
> arguments, but that status quo seems to be stronger than
> operational
> consistency :(
>
> jte
>
>
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> John Earl | Chief Technology Officer
> The PowerTech Group
> 19426 68th Ave. S
> Seattle, WA 98032
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> john.earl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.powertech.com
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