RE: Lansa/MRC Users

We rewrote our RPG App's in VL, and we are very happy with the results.
In some cases, we used VL to front end our existing RPG apps.  We added
some Parms to the workstation program and call it from Visual Lansa.

Once we decided on Lansa, we joined their partner program.  We were able
to afford 5 developer licenses that way.

After 1 week of VL training, I went home to code.  It was slow, but I
was comfortable after about 3 months.  After about a year of experience,
I didn't mind other Lansa developers looking at my stuff :-)

The developer licenses are controlled by USB keys.  I hate that, but
it's not annoying, unless you are trying to steal the software :-)

For VL, you'd be crazy not to use a framework.  Lansa's is included in
the developer license.  It offers one development framework for PC and
Web.  It works great.  There are other 3rd party frameworks available, I
use Surround Technologies (http:///www.surroundtech.com).

I use Lansa for the web for my Lansa customers, but I'm not sure I
really like it.  I think the learning curve is awful.  You still have to
know HTML and Javascript to do nice stuff.

Once you figure out HTML and Javascript and all, you might as well use
something like Brad Stones e-rpg.

See you at that Lansa User Conference in Toronto.

Art Tostaine, Jr.
CCA, Inc.
Jackson, NJ 08527


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Subject: RE: Lansa/MRC Users

Interesting !!  Thanks for the input. Maybe it's worth a look. 

Do you know if they have runtime licensing for generated apps ?

Regards,
Richard Schoen
RJS Software Systems Inc. 
"Your Complete iSeries and PC Solution Provider"
Email: richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Web Site: http://www.rjssoftware.com
Tel: (952) 898-3038
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message: 3
date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 17:51:23 -0400
from: "Walden H. Leverich" <WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: Lansa/MRC Users

>hopefully Lansa won't get relegated to the unwanted toy basement of 
>Computer Associates as Synon was :-) 

Richard,

Taken a look recently? Green screen, web, EJBs, Web Services, not bad
for a product relagated to the toy basement. And that's the 2E (iSeries
native) product.

Want full cross platform, take a look at Plex (what Synon called
Obsydian). Also in that "toy basement" at CA, but has code generation
for iSeries, Java, Windows (C++) deployed on HP, Sun, iSeries
(obviously), Windows, SQLServer, Oracle, etc. 

I'm not saying they're perfect (and I'm _not_ a salesperson for them),
but I think they deserve to be looked at.

-Walden

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Walden H Leverich III
President & CEO
Tech Software
(516) 627-3800 x11
WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://www.TechSoftInc.com 
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