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Re: QIPLDATTIM and power off/on schedule

We wrote our own and tested it this weekend (it works) as we have to quiesce
message queues and do some other shutdown stuff before ipl.

Jerry

----- Original Message -----
From: <rob@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 06:12 AM
Subject: Re: QIPLDATTIM and power off/on schedule


> If you feel a need to IPL, which may be because:
> - you want to do a restricted state backup and you might as well IPL as do
> all the other tasks necessary to bring it back up
> - Got some ptf's you want to apply
> - your lark here
>
> Then I agree, perhaps a custom program is in order for you.  However if
> you have no development staff, IBM has added a few options for you with
> the power schedule.
>
> Rob Berendt
> --
> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
> Benjamin Franklin
>
>
>
>
> Jerry <jdraper@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Re: QIPLDATTIM and power off/on schedule
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> At this point we wonder why would we use it at all.  It seems appropriate
> to
> simply write a cl that shuts things down in an orderly way and end with a
> pwrdwnsys *cntld ipl(*yes).
>
> Why not?
>
> Jerry
>
> Quoting pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx:
>
> > Jerry,
> >
> > Why would you want to turn off the power for 45 minutes? Why bother? I
> am
> > of the opinion that even with the advancements we've seen in disk drive
> > technology, it's safer to just let the machine run. I think it's better
> to
> > spend the extra few cents on the electricity. One of these times, a disk
>
> > is not going to spin up.
> >
> >
> > Paul Nelson
> > Arbor Solutions, Inc.
> > 708-670-6978  Cell
> > pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > "Courage is contagious. When a brave man takes a stand, the spines of
> > others are often stiffened." ~~ Billy Graham
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > mhshaw@xxxxxxx
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> >         Subject:        Re: QIPLDATTIM and power off/on schedule
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> > Jerry,
> >
> > Use the power scheduler.  I have used it in the past and it worked
> > reasonably
> > well.  YOu just have to remember to review it in the event special
> > requirements come up and you do not want to IPL.
> > > so, my question is:  Which to use?
> > >
> > > system value or power off/on scheduleror both?
> > >
> > > jerry
> > >
> > > Quoting Al Barsa <barsa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The power scheduler sets QIPLDATTIM, however the PWRDWNSYS command
> is
> > > > ignorant of the existence of this command.
> > > >
> > > > To make sure that the power scheduler is in synch with QIPLDATTIM,
> you
> > need
> > > > to execute the command CHGPWRSCDE *TODAY, and everything will be in
> > synch.
> > > >
> > > > >From my perspective, the fact that PWRDWNSYS does not talk to the
> > power
> > > > scheduler is a bug, but IBM tells me that this is "working as
> > designed".  I
> > > > suspect that the proper term is "working as coded".
> > > >
> > > > Al
> > > >
> > > > Al Barsa, Jr.
> > > > Barsa Consulting Group, LLC
> > > >
> > > > 400>390
> > > >
> > > > 914-251-1234
> > > > 914-251-9406 fax
> > > >
> > > > http://www.barsaconsulting.com
> > > > http://www.taatool.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >              Jerry
> >
> > > >              <jdraper@trilosof
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> > > >                                        QIPLDATTIM and power off/on
> > > >              11/14/2003 04:41          schedule
> > > >              PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >              Please respond to
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What is the relationship between the system value to IPL the system
> at
> > a
> > > > given
> > > > date and time and the power off/on schedule?
> > > >
> > > > Our power off/on schedule is set to power off at 2am and power on at
>
> > 2:45am
> > > > Sunday.
> > > >
> > > > Our system value is set to ipl the system at 2:45 on Sunday.
> > > >
> > > > Are both needed?
> > > >
> > > > System value . . . . . :   QIPLDATTIM
> > > > Description  . . . . . :   Date and time to automatically IPL
> >
> > > > IPL date . . . . . . . :   11/16/03   *NONE, MM/DD/YY
> > > > IPL time . . . . . . . :   02:45:00   HH:MM:SS
> > > >
> > > >                      Power     Power
> > > >  Date      Day       On        Off       Description
> > > >  11/16/03  Sun       02:45:00  02:00:00
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jerry
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