Re: I hate OpsConsole!

Used to have that on the S/38.

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:18:58 -0500, "Urbanek, Marty"
<Marty_Urbanek@xxxxxxxxxxxx> said:
> Yes, I hate all that cutesy GUI crap too, when it gets in the way of
> doing
> my job. However, I also see the demise of this platform if we don't admit
> that that cutesy crap sells and shed the green-screen image. That is why
> IBM
> is "shoving that bloatware down our throats". They are trying to keep us
> from becoming extinct. Same thing with that lousy Info Center that after
> years and years still doesn't have anything as easy to search as the way
> it
> was originally when the organization was electronic copies of physical
> manuals. But it sure does look purrrty.
> 
> Wouldn't it be cool if they just built a small 5250 terminal right inside
> of
> the iSeries hardware and call it a service console or system status
> display
> something? I remember various components of the mainframe use to have
> their
> own little keypads and displays, like in a 3990 control unit. This would
> just be an extension of that same concept. "No sir, that's not a green
> screen, it's just part of the power supply".
> 
> -Marty
> ------------------------------
> 
> date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:53:07 -0600
> from: Jay Maynard <jmaynard@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> subject: Re: I hate OpsConsole!
> 
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 06:42:57PM -0800, James H. H. Lampert wrote:
> > I've long suspected that IBM's refusal to make certain network-related
> > functions accessible from the command line or from anything
> > terminal-based is really just a way to violently shove one more piece of
> > bloatware, i.e., Client Access (which is actually two pieces of
> > bloatware: both the client and the server are unnecessarily bulky) down
> > the throats of their users. Come to think of it, three pieces, unless
> > OpsConsole/OpsNav are available for DOS, Macintosh, or Linux.
> 
> No, they're not. Therefore, you must have at least one Windows box. (I
> haven't tried them under WINE, but I suspect they do not work.)
> 
> I truly don't understand why they place such a requirement on top of such
> a
> notoriously brittle platform as Windows. As an old mainframe systems
> programmer, I'm appalled at the master console being anything but a dumb
> green screen, at least as an option.
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