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<Thanks for asking.>

No problem - hoping all fellow folks on the list came out OK without a
bunch of work !

<We did OK, but were unable to get to every partition of every system
before QUPSDLYTIM kicked in, so we had several partitions end abnormally
with some damaged objects.  So everything is getting a RCLSTG as I
write, and then an Option 21 save.>

Ugh - hate to hear THAT - why damaged objects do you think ?

<As for me.  I hung around until the UPS's died, and then went to the
beach. The Long Island Sound is within 2 miles of my office!>

Sweet ! :-)

One of our kids (19 year old daughter) is there. She started to get on
the subway the day of the outage and said that for some reason she
decided not to, and as she was coming back up, the power died. Then she
ran into a friend and her boyfriend ! In a city that size; unreal. Was
definitely a God thing :-) She is STILL trying to get home and is now to
fly out Sunday evening. They called LaGuardia Friday and the airline
said everything was fine, come on out... They get there and business
folks are laying around in suits, other folks are half naked trying to
keep cool, lights are out, no general power, no air-conditioning, no ATM
machines, no one will take credit cards or debit cards or cash a check.
Then the airline tells them that they can fly if they only have carry on
luggage and they will NOT forward any check in luggage. She was scared,
frustrated, starving and near tears when she called us. So they went
back to where they had been staying. Good ole airlines; everyone
understands that there was a HUGE problem and all were very
understanding but rather than be truthful, the airlines lie. Customer
Service is none existent for them...

Chuck 



Al

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Yep, I am, unfortunately learning this the hard way, and not looking to
good right now. Would probably have gone with someone else (actually
guarantee you that) but their "discount" on our production software
package gets a "really good" discount if we go with them and I was
unsuccessful in convincing the powers that be to seriously entertain
others... In a way I guess I had a feeling something like this would
happen and I'm not a cynic !

By the way Al, how did you do out there in "no power land" ?

Chuck

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That's why you do business with a BP that totally understands LPAR, and
is prepared to bundle in with the purchase price the services necessary
to make it work.  LPARs are so complicated, that we charge for LPAR
configs! Unfortunately IBM has no LPAR Value Add, as they should.

Al

Al Barsa, Jr.
Barsa Consulting Group, LLC

400>390

914-251-1234
914-251-9406 fax

http://www.barsaconsulting.com
http://www.taatool.com





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NO lie Al... I can't IMAGINE what it would be like for an upgrade... We
are TOTALLY swapping out a 620 with an 810 LPAR'd. Our BP filled out the
"what ever it is called" work sheet or what ever that IBM wants them to
do and it gets OK'd I guess. Then the system comes in (it did this week)
and there is NOTHING but LIC on it. And as you note Al, the cards
weren't in the correct slots, etc. You would THINK that there would be
some correlation between the config sheet and what you get in... Nope.
This all was news to me. I understood there would be some work to do
with LPAR but had no idea drives had to be added, RAID'd, etc. Had am
individual I know that had been to LPAR school tell me that when this
was brought up in class (watch the card placement mess) the instructor
noted "these things are designed by PHD's and assembled by folks with
high school diplomas... Of course this is good for IGS...

Chuck

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In an LPAR environment, you take one physical system and partition it
into multiple logical systems.  This has very specific hardware
requirements, and is generally more difficult to configure and install.
IBM does not build the system properly, you need to swap around parts.
This is particularly true if you are going to upgrade an existing
system.

Al

Al Barsa, Jr.
Barsa Consulting Group, LLC

400>390

914-251-1234
914-251-9406 fax

http://www.barsaconsulting.com
http://www.taatool.com





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HI I am trying to see if I understand about LPARS. I understand the high
level. That you can use resources of other machines, that you can create
a very controlled environment.

Is there more - Is there alot of detail work for an admin in a shop that
uses LPARS extensively.

Thanks,
Rob


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