RE: The Journal News: Flow of jobs overseas has human toll

All Globalization..............
Think of a global community.........
cheers 
Manoj


-----Original Message-----
From: Raul A Jager [mailto:raul@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 3:59 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: The Journal News: Flow of jobs overseas has human toll


I disagree with sending all those jobs to India.  Some should come to 
other countries to. :-)  

John Brandt Sr. wrote:

>Very well put. I applaud you. Can I steal some of your words for later use?
>John
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael Naughton [mailto:mnaughton@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 3:57 PM
>To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
>Subject: Re: The Journal News: Flow of jobs overseas has human toll
>
>
>One sentence that struck me in this article was, "Teachers, nurses,
>musicians, psychologists and construction workers are safe for now." It
>seems to me that construction workers are only safe as long as there's
>something to build. With businesses moving off-shore, there won't be any
>commercial construction, and if no one else has a job there won't be an
>residential construction, either.
>
>Musicians are only safe as long as other people have disposable income to
>buy their products. Teachers are only safe as long as schools have enough
>money to pay them (how safe to the teachers in your local school system
>feel these days?). Health care workers are basically in the same boat.
>
>I may be missing something, but I don't see how you can have an expanding
>economy based on everyone selling services to everyone else. To really be
>expanding, someone has to generate new wealth, and the only one of those
>professions that does that, arguably, is construction.
>
>I don't think the problem is capitalism so much as it's our overall "me
>first" culture that cuts across political and class boundaries. We haven't
>built a society based on people caring about each other -- we've built one
>based on me going after what I can get and you going after what you can
>get and both of us telling ourselves that that's the best way to be. As
>individuals, we may behave differently with people we know and/or feel
>close to, but look around: all businesses want to do is maximize profits,
>all consumers want to do is get the lowest price, all workers want to do
>is get the fattest paycheck, and anyone who tries to suggest that maybe we
>should have different goals is treated like a naive dreamer. (Case in
>point: the factory owner in Lowell, Mass, who refused to lay off workers
>when his factory burned. He was hailed as a hero, but he was also written
>off as an oddball -- nobody seriously suggested that he might be setting
>an example that other business owners should actually follow.)
>
>I'm not particularly sanguine about the future, but you never know. I
>think it's a very hopeful sign that a lot of people seem to be waking up
>to what's going on. . . .
>
>Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>  
>
>>>The New York Times article on IBM seems to be generating a lot of other
>>>press articles on the flow of job overseas, such as the one below...
>>>
>>>http://www.thejournalnews.com/newsroom/072703/d0127offshore.html
>>>      
>>>
>
>
>Mike Naughton
>Senior Programmer/Analyst
>Judd Wire, Inc.
>124 Turnpike Road
>Turners Falls, MA  01376
>413-863-4357 x444
>mnaughton@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
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