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Joe,

We have up to 10 people writing RPG to extract data and some add new
screens etc. They test these programmes in a test environment and when
happy move them to Live. I had thought that they could test these in batch
and convert the DSPF and test them in a browser. I had hoped that the
development could be done in WDSc, but I see a problem when you want to do
something simple like a  DSPFD etc. You'd have to look at the results in
your spool files.

Operators at the moment use the system screens for monitoring the system
and setting up user profiles etc. I had thought that Ops Nav could do this
for us.

This has been my BIG problem with all these webfacing / PSC/400 tools. Yes
you can convert your DSPFs and run your system in batch. But what do you do
when you want to develop a new function involving 5 RPG programmers and
lots of new DSPFs. I don't really want to go down the road of having two
iSeries etc.

When the new announcements were made, we assumed that IBM were trying to
get theb likes of us onto standard machines, using webfacing and doing all
our new RPG development using the WDSc and Operators on Ops Nav.

What are the new standard editions for and who uses them ? Former
green-screened sites ?

Yes, we use Query 400 alot and UPDDTA etc  &  we develop in RPG .

I thought there might be some other query tool that could replace Query 400

                                          Thanks, Fergal



                                                                                
                                                           
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> From: fergal.o'flynn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>       -  If I've converted an application using Joe's PSC/400 product or
> webfacing and I have a zero CPW Standard edition iSeries, what will
happen
> to the RPG programmers ?

How many are you talking about?  They can edit and compile using WDSC.  The
biggest problem is testing.  One person can test at a time.  If you think
you're going to have lots of heavy testing, you may want to get a small P05
machine for development.  It's still cheaper than the difference between
the
standard and enterprise edition machines.


>       - If I want to add new functionality for the users, new
> data extarcts
> etc, what can we use ? I'm aware that the Standard edition only allows
one
> green screened console ?

I don't understand this question.  Are you talking about using QUERY/400?
If so, then you're right, that won't work on a standard edition machine.
Nor will DFU or OS/400 menus.  You have to develop your applications in
RPG.
Is this what you were asking?

Joe

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