Re: webfacing and competing products

David,

I am MAKING that assertion. I understand screen scraping from an historical
perspective - vis-a-vis the data stream.

However, I am making the assertion that if the HTML page (for example) is
simply the same 24x80 that you had in the original green screen - no matter
how you got there (java, server, batch, etc..) then you have just scraped
the screen. I was not picking on anyone in particular - just commenting on
the fact that we have all this whizbang new technologies called "refacing"
or "webfacing", but they all seem to look remarkably like the original green
screen.

If the green screen has been ~transformed~ into something GUI, then I think
it has been refaced - as opposed to screen-scraped.

It uses a "face" perspective rather than a "technical solution"
perspective..

Like Bob said - inventing my own lexicon.
Trevor

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Gibbs"

> "trevor perry" <trevorp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
> message news:000b01c33444$12b94ca0$61794664@xxxxxxx
> > And I will say it this way. I assert, i you are just putting the same
> 24x80
> > from the (ex-)DSPF to a client - browser or otherwise - you are
> > screen-scraping.
>
> Trevor:
>
> I think you need to take some time and research your assertions ... that
> statement is fundamentally wrong.
>
> Screen scraping uses the 5250 emulator to extract data from a display.
>
> Webfacing & Joe's PSC/400 product do not require a 5250 emulator and the
> nature of the data that is transformed is totally different.
>
> If I change the layout of a screen, without changing the underlying data
> buffer structure, a webfaced application should not require any
> modification.  A screen scraped application, on the other hand, will
require
> modification.   I would guess that, if you really wanted to, you could
toss
> away the 5250 version of a program processed through PSC/400.  I'm pretty
> sure you cannot do that with Webfacing, but there's no requirement to have
a
> 5250 emulator available.
>
> david