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Well, I remember a John Wayne movie in which the Duke wouldn't let this 
guy handle dynamite because he never had an accident and thus didn't learn 
what could go wrong.  However, which looks better on a resume':  someone 
with lots of successful project experience, or someone with failed SAP 
project experience?  Or do you hire anyone who has SAP on their resume' if 
you are implementing SAP?

Rob Berendt
-- 
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary 
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." 
Benjamin Franklin 





"Paul Nelson" <pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Like I said, my gut tells me that some IT managers are padding their
résumé's.

Paul Nelson
Arbor Solutions, Inc.
708-670-6978 Cell
708-923-7354 Home
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Glenn Ericson" <Glenn-Ericson@xxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>;
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Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: Hersey and SAP - how did the train wreck end?


> Paul,
> I've heard of  23x $35 mill, over-run, lowered  implementation standards
of
> success with shorter. function as satisfaction of completion -and still
> counting .  I can't  tell you  who is to  blame but there appears to be 
a
> trend.
>
>
> At 03:21 PM 6/7/2003 -0500, Paul Nelson wrote:
> >A couple of years ago, a large homebuilder client of mine told me that 
he
> >had been told by the owner of an even bigger competitor that his 
company
was
> >in the process of implementing SAP. My first thought was the IT manager
was
> >padding his resume, cuz even JDE had gotten out of that market segment. 
I
> >then asked him how bad the implementation was going. The answer was 35
> >million and counting.
> >
> >The owner of that company really didn't understand what he had been
talked
> >into. Like Ken said, more money than brains.
> >
> >Paul Nelson
> >Arbor Solutions, Inc.
> >708-670-6978 Cell
> >708-923-7354 Home
> >pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Don" <dr2@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 1:43 PM
> >Subject: RE: Hersey and SAP - how did the train wreck end?
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Seems like I heard something about CompUSA doing the same thing....
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 jack.roughgarden@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > >
> > > > Didn't IBM spend several million on one of their divisions before
> >showing
> > > > SAP to door ???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Shields, Ken" <kenshields@xxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > 06/03/2003 01:44 PM
> > > > Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >         To:     "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
> ><midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >         cc:
> > > >         Subject:        RE: Hersey and SAP  - how did the train
wreck
> >end?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > SAP also ran aground recently with the third largest retailer in 
the
US.
> > > >                  Some companies, I swear, have more money than
brains...
> > > > Ken
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Booth Martin [mailto:Booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 1:31 PM
> > > > To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: Hersey and SAP - how did the train wreck end?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  Who knows how the SAP trainwreck at Hersey Chocolate ended?
(Rememebr
> >a
> > > > couple of Halloweens ago they couldn't deliver candy? )
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > > > Booth Martin   http://www.MartinVT.com
> > > > Booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------
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