Re: Data 3 software

IBM won't "preserve" the serial number anymore for new machines. They'll
only do it on MES upgrades.

Paul Nelson
Arbor Solutions, Inc.
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vern Hamberg" <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: Data 3 software


> Is the key based only on serial number? If so, IIRC, it IS possible to
have
> the old one applied to the new machine. Probably would need to talk to
IBM.
> I don't know the legal ramifications or the relationship with CA, IBM,
etc.
> Also, Leif's ebook on MI has a chapter on changing the serial number.
>
> HTH
>
> Vern
>
> At 11:05 AM 5/30/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> ><Hold the laughter until I finish>
> >
> >We have just stumbled across a small company that is still running an F10
> >at V3R2. The IT manager needed some PTF's that we were able to find and
> >loan him. He desperately needs to be on a new system, but his software is
> >from the old Data 3 company, which was purchased by CA, and then by SSA.
> >The system is heavily modified, and the company quit paying maintenance
> >years ago. While investigating a new system during the time that the
> >software was owned by CA, he was told that the charge for getting a new
> >license key would be $200K.
> >
> >Do any of you old-timers out there have any experience with Data 3,
> >specifically as to how they did their serial number checking? Is there a
> >way around it, or is he hosed? Also, if there is a way around it, how
well
> >does the Data 3 system survive a CISC to RISC conversion? Before you ask
> >about source code and observability etc., I only spent 20 minutes talking
> >with this unfortunate fellow yesterday when I dropped off the PTF tapes.
> >
> ><Laughter may resume>
> >
> >Paul Nelson
>
>
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