RE: Off-topic, and not sorry one iota

Why people talkin about that here ?
There is many forums for that on the net.

--
Stephane


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De : midrange-l-bounces@midrange.com
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@midrange.com]De la part de Jeff Bull
Envoyé : vendredi, 7. février 2003 10:41
À : 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Objet : RE: Off-topic, and not sorry one iota


I have been in the British military, and fought in a war ... though at heart
I am a pacifist,
and certainly not an appeaser.  Saddam needs dealing with in the same way
that Hitler
needed dealing with (for example).  Unfortunately, the historical reason he
needs dealing
with is often over-looked.  Remember appeasement ?

In the 1970's and 80's, Iran was the baddy, many 'civilised' first world
countries, the USA
and many in Europe, were have to encourage Iraq to war with Iran, the
profits from the
sales of military hardware to Iraq were icing on the cake; though in
reality, many of the
weapons were not paid for by Iraq, the debts being picked up by the US and
Britain.

We (in the west) have piled weapons into the Middle East, Central and South
America,
Africa, Asia - and all in the name of the furtherance of Democracy (and, I
suspect, a
healthy profit for our armaments industries).  Of course, at one point, the
bigger
bogey man was the Soviet Union / Russia; these areas of conflict were often
a proxy
war against them.

Until we get our polititians and fat-cat armaments industrialists under the
control of the
people, we will never have our true democracy or world peace.

An analogy: How can there be gun-less crime on the streets of our cities,
while the
availablility of hand-guns / rifles is so easy.  Surely the logical step is
to stop making
and selling them.

Now we have to deal with Saddam, and North Korea is making loud noises
believing
they will be the next world enemy no.1 .

I for one will vote for any politian who stands on the promise of working
towards the
dismantling of the international arms trade - a first step to peace.

I know that the planes that flew into the twin towers on 11/Sep were not
products of the
conventional arms industry, but it would be truly ironic if in the next such
terrorist attack on
the west utilised conventianal western munitions - a cruise missile into
another high-density
area of civilian population, or a patriot missile into a 747.  The phrase
"hung by our own
petard" comes to mind.  The British HMS Sheffield was sunk with a French
missile, fired
from a French aircraft, flow by an Argentinian.  There might be more British
sailors alive
today if our allies had not sold these weapons to Argentina.

Lets show a united front on tackling the evils in our world, Saddam for now,
and the arms
industry.  If we must fight each other, lets put our national leaders in the
arena against
each other to decide the outcome.

Jeffrey E. Bull


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