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And I sort of started all of this and have been pretty much silent today but
reading everything because I have been busy with a major project we have in
the works. It includes the purchase of a new 820 to replace our aging 620
AND an additional 270. I have been going around with our BP/Software
provider, or rather the sales guy for the BP, who is pushing an NT server in
place of the 270 because it is cheaper !

Luckily our CFO is in love with the AS/400 and the one additional IT person
we have here (just started a couple of months ago and had no real knowledge
of the box) is in love with it too ! So on our conference call today I had
to point out the age old mantra that TCO has to be considered (among a bunch
of other things in my book; those in a minute). That SURE the NT Server is
cheaper up front but what about long term ? And he finally agrees but we are
still puzzled as to where the heck he is coming from... This 270 vs NT
server is to be the front end into a web e-commerce product they sell with
the 820 being the production system. We have NO existing NT server and while
I have been an NT and Novell admin in the past, I have no real interest in
resuming that role with everything else I'm doing right now and we are under
mandate to hire no more IT folks for the time being. So, hmmm, add an NT
server for this one app, constantly worry about it being the gateway to the
web, etc. or put the 270 out there and let it run and run and run...

But at least I am winning this battle :-)

Chuck

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com
[mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Dr Syd Nicholson
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:15 PM
To: midrange-l@midrange.com
Subject: Re: OS/400 command set


One of the reasons my client uses iSeries is because they do not want
the costs/downtime associated with may other alternatives.

I think one of the biggest battles the iSeries has with other systems is
the hype. There is a lot of hype for alternative systems, but nowhere
near enough for the iSeries. Most non-iSeries companies have never even
heard of the machine

There is also lot of negative hype put out by the supporters of
alternative systems and very little seems to be done to refute it, IMHO.

There I go - jumping on Joe's bandwagon. Now we can both rant.

Syd


Mike Haston ** Data wrote:

>Amazing.  I'm no marketing guy (thank goodness), but why wouldn't IBM make
>one of their clever little commercials outlining what is in the example
>below?  I'll have to save this snippet for my buddies that told me not to
>get into the 400 world five years ago because it was dead! <vbg>
>
>This is especially humorous to me because I'm hearing the horror stories
>from my last shop that is going from the 400 to run SAP on Sun boxes.
>Twenty boxes to replace one iSeries.  A Unix person, an Oracle DBA and all
>they hear is operations on the phone saying "we have servers down"!
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dr Syd Nicholson [mailto:sydnic@ccs400.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 1:43 PM
>To: midrange-l@midrange.com
>Subject: Re: OS/400 command set
>


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