RE: system save

Tom,

The basics of the SAVSYS have not changed.  It must be run interactively
from the system console on a dedicated system.  I've gotten a bit of an
education from this thread as to how it can be scheduled in batch.

I went into the BRMS documentation as well as reading an explanation
from Todd Kidwell in this thread.  Yes, you can schedule the dedicated
save using the job scheduler, so the marketing folks do have a grain of
truth to cling to.  Here are the specifics (grossly oversimplified) as I
understand them from the BRMS documentation:

- BRMS (IBM's Backup and Recovery Media Services) will allow you to
schedule a *SAVSYS (the dedicated portion of a full system save) and on
the 'Submit to Batch' parameter of the BRMS job, you enter the special
value of *CONSOLE.

- Prior to the scheduled time of the save, you sign on to the console
with appropriate authority and initiate the BRMS Console Monitor
program.  This program will password-protect the console and wait for a
message (I assume via data queue).

- When the scheduled job initiates, it will send a message to the
console program which will then perform the appropriate tasks, including
dedicating the system and doing a SAVSYS.

I would assume that third-party backup utilities could certainly use
similar processing.  You can schedule it in batch and it runs
interactively at the console.

It would take some programming, but you could also write your own code
to perform these tasks.

Kind Regards,
Andy Nolen-Parkhouse



>   I don't know, so please educate me..  But I'm hearing that it CAN be
> done.. But may require a third party backup utility..  Something that
> can run in restricted state. (does BRMS support restricted state
> backups?)
>
> Or am I being misled by marketing folks???
>
> Tom