Re: Version upgrade brain f**t

On Sat, 25 May 2002, bdietz@3x.com wrote

> The instruction for the V5R1 CUMe has a section about loading
other PTF's
> (ie. groups) BEFORE loading the CUMe CD.
>
> I have found this to work very well.
>
> Load OS and Lic pgms
> Load HIPER (no ipl)
> Load DB (no ipl)
> Load anyother group you recieved (no ipl)
> Load CUMe  (IPL)

Very odd about instructions from IBM to load groups before cumes.
Essentially the exact opposite of how I've done it. I don't think
I've gotten group-before-cume to even work before. I'm going to
look into that.

For me, HIPERs first. Then cumes because (1) they're cumulative
and (2) they're on a longer cycle than the others. This means
that PTFs in a group that have pre-reqs are more likely to find
them in the cume if it's been loaded already. With groups on a
shorter cycle, it's almost guaranteed that the groups will have a
later date and that there'll be no PTFs in any group that the
cume PTFs will rely upon. (How could they? They didn't exist
until later.)

I've never had good luck loading groups before cumes because too
many pre-reqs haven't been loaded yet. I get far too many errors
saying that various ones couldn't load due to missing pre-reqs.
HIPERs don't seem to have near as many requisites and so seldom
need to wait if ever.

Cume packages are cumulative but do not contain all PTFs. I'm not
clear on how IBM decides what makes it into the cumes, but I've
seen that PTFs such as for various parts of SQL often are only
available in the DB group package. Although the SQL engine is
present on all iSeries and AS/400s, there are chargeable
components of SQL. Because these components are not on all
systems, I imagine this affects IBMs decision making.

It'd sure be nice to know the rules.

Tom Liotta

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