Re: multiple os on single pc. was When is a Windows network not a Windows network

For curiosity's sake, how does the VM work with 3d Gaming?  I dual boot my
workstation at home because I need W2K to play my MMORPG :).  anyone know
how it handles 3d rendering?  I would muc prefer having linux booted and
loading the VM within it to play my windows game.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dr Syd Nicholson" <sydnic@ccs400.com>
To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: multiple os on single pc. was When is a Windows network not a
Windows network


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> NT and W2K crash as well  - only marginally more stable that W9x. My
> experience shows that it depends how new the PC is. Windows 'seems' to
> get less reliable as it, and the hardware, get older. Is this just me,
> or is this rather suspicious.
>
> Back to the subject of  multiple OS on a single PC. I have found that a
> base OS of Linux with Windows in VMWare sessions is more stable than
> Windows as the base OS. Win NT4 server and W2K run perfectly well in a
> VMWare shell under Linux.
>
> For a stable system I would recommend a base OS of Linux, then add the
> Windows OSs. If one of the Windows sessions crashes, it can be restarted
> without rebooting the entire PC.
>
> Syd Nicholson
>
>
> Walden H. Leverich wrote:
>
> >What version of windows? If it's not W2K (and _maybe_ XP Pro) then all
bets
> >are off. The rest stink.
> >
> >The biggest disservice MS did to themselves was naming their P.O.S.
> >operating systems (9x and ME) the same as their good ones (NT, W2K and XP
> >Pro). I often hear that "windows" crashes all the time and then I hear
that
> >it's 9x or ME.
> >
> >
> >-Walden
> >
> >------------
> >Walden H Leverich III
> >President
> >Tech Software
> >(516) 627-3800 x11
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> >WaldenL@TechSoftInc.com
> >http://www.TechSoftInc.com
> >
> >Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
> >(Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Weatherly, Howard [mailto:hweatherly@dlis.dla.mil]
> >Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 08:10
> >To: 'midrange-l@midrange.com'
> >Subject: RE: multiple os on single pc. was When is a Windows network not
a
> >Windows network
> >
> >
> >This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not
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> >this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.
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> >I wish I had the reported up time with any Windows product that I hear
> >reports about, always seems like something is broken or won't work! maybe
> >it's those darn IBM computers I use that the OS finds fault with, or
maybe I
> >just ask the OS to do the far to complex task of simply managing hardware
> >and providing a decent user interface, yup that must be it, I am far too
> >demanding ...
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Walden H. Leverich [mailto:WaldenL@TechSoftInc.com]
> >Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 4:28 PM
> >To: 'midrange-l@midrange.com'
> >Subject: RE: multiple os on single pc. was When is a Windows network not
a
> >Windows network
> >
> >
> >Along the lines of my analogy to LPAR, what happens when the controlling
> >LPAR goes down? When the host OS goes south the entire machine (including
> >VMs) go south. However, I find that doesn't happen to often (W2K).
> >
> >-Walden
> >
> >------------
> >Walden H Leverich III
> >President
> >Tech Software
> >(516) 627-3800 x11
> >(208) 692-3308 eFax
> >WaldenL@TechSoftInc.com
> >http://www.TechSoftInc.com
> >
> >Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
> >(Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Weatherly, Howard [mailto:hweatherly@dlis.dla.mil]
> >Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 16:21
> >To: 'midrange-l@midrange.com'
> >Subject: RE: multiple os on single pc. was When is a Windows network not
a
> >Windows network
> >
> >
> >This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not
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> >What happens when the host system has a problem, are the virtual machines
> >preserved or is a major catastrophe?
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Walden H. Leverich [mailto:WaldenL@TechSoftInc.com]
> >Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 3:47 PM
> >To: 'midrange-l@midrange.com'
> >Subject: RE: multiple os on single pc. was When is a Windows network not
a
> >Windows network
> >
> >
> >It actually keeps the state of the OS in memory. I can run W2K as my base
OS
> >with a WinNT and a Linux VM. The important thing to stress here is that
> >there is no reboot involved. The guest OS's run in a window under W2K.
Think
> >of it as LPAR for windows. (Um, maybe you should think of LPAR as vmware
for
> >OS/400 <G>).
> >
> >When we moved to W2K (several years ago now) the payroll software that we
> >run wouldn't work under W2K. Normally that would necessitate either a
> >dual-boot system or a second box, however with VMWare I would simply boot
> >the NT VM when I needed to access the software. As a funny aside, the
> >payroll software was Java based, you know the write once run anywhere
> >software <G>
> >
> >On final place VMWare is really cool is demos and the lab. Want to test
or
> >demo 2 Exchange servers with a client. No problem, just boot two W2K
server
> >VMs, start exchange in each and then run the client in the host os. Don't
> >expect this to be fast, but it does work.
> >
> >-Walden
> >
> >------------
> >Walden H Leverich III
> >President
> >Tech Software
> >(516) 627-3800 x11
> >(208) 692-3308 eFax
> >WaldenL@TechSoftInc.com
> >http://www.TechSoftInc.com
> >
> >Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
> >(Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Vernon Hamberg [mailto:vhamberg@attbi.com]
> >Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 17:32
> >To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> >Subject: RE: multiple os on single pc. was When is a Windows network not
a
> >Windows network
> >
> >
> >I've heard some neat things about this. Does it keep a disk copy of the
> >state of each OS when switching, or something like that? Are there limits
on
> >memory and disk resources per OS? There'd certainly need to be more disk,
> >I'd think, and some more CPU memory to keep everything going - kinda like
a
> >hypervisor?
> >
> >At 03:59 PM 5/12/02 -0500, you wrote:
> >
> >>PS:  If you need very good performance out of the vm, then partition
> >>magic would be better.
> >>
> >
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