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PS:

        The Trouble With Multivendor IPsec
        http://www.networkcomputing.com/1105/1105ws2.html

        Look at this article, Also check things like SoftPK IRE and the
iSeries/400 L2TP
VPN Server support..

        Finally, if you have a Linux partition you could look at SSH and
Freeswan..
        http://www.openssh.com/  **  http://www.tac.nyc.ny.us/kim/ssh/ **
        http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
        http://www.freeswan.org/intro.html

        JMS,,,

PPS: These are references not referrals.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Franz" <franz400@triad.rr.com>
To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: VPN server


> I would verify with the dsl provider that they "fully support" what you
are
> doing with the
> equipment you are doing it with.
> Our network guy asked BellSouth if we could install the cheaper dsl
> connection at a remote site in Miami, FL.
> They said yes.
> He asked - can we run VPN
> They said yes.
> He flew to Miami to install - didn't work!
> Asked BellSouth why.
> Answer - we support vpn on "our supplied routers", not your Cisco
> routers-you didn't ask us that!
> (and our routers don't support your Cisco vpn!)
> Morale of this story - Verify the entire setup - routers, firewall, ports
> for traffic, etc.
> jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Bipes" <chris.bipes@cross-check.com>
> To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 6:50 PM
> Subject: RE: VPN server
>
>
> > Well DSL is FAST in ONE direction.  Though the upload speed is 128K or
> that
> > of the ISDN line.  VPN does add lots of overhead to your network
traffic.
> I
> > find DSL to be very reliable.  Brand new installation was only down
twice
> in
> > the first year and has been rock solid for the last 6 months.  I would
say
> > our T1 dies about once a year, well we just changed ISPs so we will see.
> If
> > the branch offices currently have internet access or need access, VPN
> would
> > be the way to go.  Private FR is more secure with PtoP leased lines the
> most
> > secure you can get and be connected 24x7.  I would put DSL at one
location
> > and see how it works with VPN and add locations one at a time.
> >
> >
> > Good Luck
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Richter [mailto:srichter@autocoder.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 1:19 PM
> > To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> > Subject: RE: VPN server
> >
> >
> > Our current topology is frame relay, cisco routers, T1 from central
office
> > to the frame cloud, branch offices use expensive and slow 64kb/128kb
> > connections to the cloud.
> >
> > Any thoughts on replacing the cloud with router to router vpn over the
> > internet ?
> >
> > Esp where less expensive, higher speed DSL is used to connect the remote
> > branches to the internet.
> >
> > Is DSL too unreliable for business use ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Steve Richter
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