Re: Model 400 upgrade cost

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The Currency Access fee [CAF] for a P20 level system is  $17,000 odd, then
you get to  pay for software subscription on top of that.
Had  one  client  call it a "Hostage Fee"


At 05:56 AM 02/06/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Terry,
>   I believe that Charly is almost exactly right. The Gotcha is the currency
>access fee. If the machine doesn't have Software Subscription I think you'll
>have to pay it. The only way that Charly is correct on this (and it seems
>fair mind you but this IBM) is if you as a new customer get to put SS on the
>box without the currency fee.
>   I have helped a couple people get model 400s running that have done this,
>exception being that they Had SS.
>
>  - Larry
>
>Charly Jones wrote:
>
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>>Terry --
>>
>>I think you may be giving up too easily.  If the machine has the
>>non-compiler licensed program products you need and/or want, like:
>>
>>5769-PW1 App Dev ToolSet for AS/400
>>5769-QU1 Query for AS/400
>>5769-ST1 DB2 Query Mgr and SQL DevKit for AS/400
>>5769-XE1 Client Access/400 Express for Windows
>>5769-XW1 Client Access/400 Windows Family Base
>>
>>and if the current owner has the ownership certificates and will give them
>>to you, and if IBM hasn't changed their rules lately, and if there is one
>>compiler that that you can get the ownership certificate (any compiler)...
>>
>>THEN -- it might be a very good deal, because for the cost of a one year
>>software subscription you would be entitled to V5R1, all compilers
>>COBOL/C/C++/Java/Websphere/RPG, and a lot more.  You wouldn't have to do
>>the
>>software subscription right away if the system comes with the compiler and
>>tools you want, and staying on V4 isn't a problem for you.  You may be able
>>to get a similar deal with all the V4 compilers with a software
>>subscription, I don't know those details.
>>
>>I don't believe there would be a concurrency or upgrade fee.  Someone
>>correct me if I am wrong.  There will be a media charge for V5R1, something
>>like two hundred dollars, or less.
>>
>>I tried to find out about these rules and procedures before I bought my
>>first AS/400 model 400.  I got a lot of advice and "FACTS" from IBM, from
>>this list, and others.  There are many opinions.  Some are correct.  Your
>>"local hardware" firm is not motivated to help you do this, they don't get
>>paid anything for transferring a system, so send all the old systems to the
>>dump.
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