Re: Fast400 Value to iSeries community is less than zero

On Friday 09 November 2001 02:57 pm, Steve Richter wrote:
> From: "Chris Rehm" <javadisciple@earthlink.net>
> >
> > My point is that this is not a CFINT issue, it is a pricing issue. If
IBM
> > needs to receive a certain amount of revenue to justify marketing the
> > iSeries, it doesn't matter if they use a CPW interactive governor or if
> > they manufacture dual CPU systems with variant degrees of power for 5250
> > and non 5250 data streams.
>
> Chris,
>
> The high end 270 has a cpw of 1000 and a base price of 30k. Add on the
> extras needed to support 15 active telneting users and the price is $50k.
> To run a real c++ telnet accessed application that is code bloat to some,
> well abstracted functionality to others will need every bit of the 1000
CPW
> to service its 15 users.

I don't see how this changes the issue. I don't think you are trying to say
that if some users want to do things that they can't cost justify it is the
vendor's job to lower prices until they can, are you?

> Current ibm pricing for 1000 cpw of interactive processing is what $200k ?
> That is way overpriced for the 15 user system that I am describing.  The
> casualty is the c++ application, the C++ way of coding an application.

Overprices in terms of what you wish to pay, or in terms of what you are
asking IBM to provide?

> And the foolish part of this is that if the high ungoverned, reasonably
> priced cpw is sold by IBM for interactive jobs, then pgms will be written
to
> use it ( waste it some will say ), the 200K 820 will support just as many
> users as it supports now and IBM will make just as much money as before.
> ( more actually since they will sell more systems )

Well, I can go along with the idea that IBM marketing needs to be mindful
of the additional markets they might be able to attract. I will tell you
that I do not believe that there is either a pent up demand for 5250 based
new application development nor is there a pent up demand for telnet based
applications. My personal belief is that the growth areas in the server
market are for service applications for GUI based PC clients. I suspect
this pressure exists in the *nix market as well as the iSeries market.



> -Steve Richter
>
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Chris Rehm
javadisciple@earthlink.net

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