Re: Tiger Tools

The way Tiger Tools works is by launching a job which goes through the TDE
looking for the bit that says "Charge me as an interactive job?' Yes/No.

IBM I assume will change the location of that bit in short order for all
releases, and you can be sure that they won't tell you which PTF it is.
Also that PTF will likely be a prerequisite PTF for any future PTFs, so
there won't be any getting around it.

Now here's the $64,000 question.  What will IBM code then do to your system
when the original bit gets changed by a third party tool.  I suspect that
the might execute the ENDOSAMA command *IMMED:-))))).  I don't think that I
would want Tiger Tools on my system when this happens!

Al

Al Barsa, Jr.
Barsa Consulting Group, LLC

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914-251-1234
914-251-9406 fax

http://www.barsaconsulting.com
http://www.taatool.com






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Not to start this one up again, but I need a little more ammo here.

My company is considering (the executives, not me) getting Tiger Tools.  I
used it on a sandbox, no apparent harm done, seemed to help on interactive
a
bit, yatta yatta.  However - the IBM standpoint of "this is bad, don't use
this, we won't help you if you do" is a hinderance to my buy-in on TTools.
Here's a couple questions.

1.  Since the tool appears to work, will IBM release a PTF which will
disable it?
2.  What does it *actually* do?  Any nasty under-the-covers stuff, or is it
really simple, anyone with half a brain could do it sort of things?
3.  What will IBM say if you have a problem and they find you have TTools
installed?
4.  Is there a legal aspect to this that IBM could use against customers?

I firmly believe that IBM hardware/software is good.  Any workaround on
that
generally decreases your reliability and availability, in my mind.
Pros/cons to TTools @ an executive level would be great.

Justin C. Haase
Midrange Systems Engineer - Kingland Systems Corporation
1401 - 6th Avenue South - Clear Lake, IA 50428 USA
IBM Certified AS/400 Systems Administrator



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