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I'm sorry, come again?  You're running a *billion* dollar business on a
436 (a 9402 P05 or P10) and you're complaining about having to upgrade
the hardware?!?!?  You're right, there is something definitely wrong
with this picture.

I mean, c'mon!  The OS itself is probably taking a big chunk of change
on your DASD which is maxxed out at 50GB (nominal; half that if you're
mirroring).

Maybe in the future your company could plan for growth in your business
*and* in the OS.  Unlike MicroSh*t products, OS/400 keeps getting better
& better with each release.

Dan Bale
IT - AS/400
Handleman Company
248-362-4400  Ext. 4952
D.Bale@Handleman.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Basit Khan [SMTP:Bkhan@medexassist.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 9:27 AM
> To:   'midrange-l@midrange.com'
> Subject:      RE: Will Upgrading to V4R5 impact performance???
>
> So, That means it is okay to say that every time we have a new version
> of
> operating system we upgrade our hardware - someone is talking "M     S
> "'s language here. I thought that is not the case with IBM's AS/400 -
> well I
> guess I was wrong.
>
> We were running our billion dollar business on 436 without a single
> problem
> and just the version upgrade will make it obsolete box - I am sorry
> but
> there is something wrong with this picture.
>
>
>
> B Khan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rob@dekko.com [mailto:rob@dekko.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 10:42 AM
> To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> Subject: RE: Will Upgrading to V4R5 impact performance???
>
>
>
> So, as the other gentleman said, if you would have had Windows 3.1
> running
> on an older PC and upgraded it to Win NT or W2K then you could have
> expected about the same results.  A 436 is a teeny weensie box.  IBM
> has
> said that the follow on to V5R1 will not run on some older boxes -
> like a
> 40S that we have.
>
> And if you have such a machine you are partially right.  Before you
> decide
> to upgrade OS, maybe you should think about upgrading hardware.  But
> then
> we have a P40 that is:
> % CPU used . . . . . . . :        3.0
> (Above was a snapshot from DSPSYSSTS at 9:38am our time)
> So we are going to upgrade it to a P50.
>
> Rob Berendt
>
> ==================
> A smart person learns from their mistakes,
> but a wise person learns from OTHER peoples mistakes.
>
>
>
>                     Basit Khan
>                     <Bkhan@medexassist.       To:
> "'midrange-l@midrange.com'" <midrange-l@midrange.com>
>                     com>                      cc:
>                     Sent by:                  Fax to:
>                     midrange-l-admin@mi       Subject:     RE: Will
> Upgrading to V4R5 impact performance???
>                     drange.com
>
>
>                     10/09/2001 08:12 AM
>                     Please respond to
>                     midrange-l
>
>
> I had no performance issues before the upgrade however after I
> upgraded to
> v4r5 it was a disaster - every time we have a single user running
> query it
> will basically stop processing every thing else. We ended up moving to
> another box.
> I will say if you have an older box and it has no performance issues
> just
> leave it alone - unless you have have a more robust box. We had 436
> which
> was an old box but it was performing very well with v4r3 - now that we
> migrated to 170 and it is working fine with v4r5 ( but it has more
> DASD and
> memory is almost double than older box)
>
> B Khan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rob@dekko.com [mailto:rob@dekko.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 5:50 PM
> To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> Subject: RE: Will Upgrading to V4R5 impact performance???
>
> Basit,
>
> What are your measurements, before and after the upgrade?
>
> Rob Berendt
>
> ==================
> A smart person learns from their mistakes,
> but a wise person learns from OTHER peoples mistakes.
>
>
>
>                     Basit Khan
>                     <Bkhan@medexassist.       To:
> "'midrange-l@midrange.com'" <midrange-l@midrange.com>
>                     com>                      cc:
>                     Sent by:                  Fax to:
>                     midrange-l-admin@mi       Subject:     RE: Will
> Upgrading to V4R5 impact performance???
>                     drange.com
>
>
>                     10/08/2001 03:37 PM
>                     Please respond to
>                     midrange-l
>
> be ready for Slow performance...
>
> B Khan
>


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