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> -----Original Message-----
> From: MDC Information Systems
>
> >> Have a look at www.insure.ie and www.firstcalldirect.ie for MDC client
> >sites
> >> in 100% LANSA code.
> >
> >Um.  Interesting website.  I entered the data, got to the last
> page, and it
> >told me I had made an error.  It told me to press the back button to get
> >back to the page in error and fix it.  When I hit the back button, all my
> >previous entries were cleared lost and I had to re-enter everything.
>
>
> Neither of the above sites gives a message re the back button when you get
> an error, they post a list of error message which you correct on the page,
> you do not lose any data. If you try to skip pages or run 2
> browser session
> at same time and cut & paste data between them (i.e. client
> trying to insure
> a Porsche at Peugeot prices) then server will clear fields. If you can
> replicate what you say then please mail me the example to
> mike@mdc.ie (with
> the reference no. if possible).

I don't know whether to be offended or just amazed at what must be either
laziness or a keen lack of testing ability.  Do you think I made this up?
But, hey, let me do your job for you:

(Enter personal details)

DOB: 09 Feb 1975
Sex: Male
Occupation: pgmr
add'l occ: blank
Mar Sts: Single
Main: County Cork
Work: County DOnegal
Avg ann mile: 8000
Non-drinker: Y
email: joepluta@plutabrothers.com

Click on proceed

(Enter car details)

CHRYSLER
1.5 Litre
Petrol
1991
3000
Yes
Left
Immobiliser
Private Property
Yes

Click on Proceed

(Enter second car details)

CHEVROLET
1.2 Litre
Petrol
1993
Spouse
No

Click on Proceed

At this point, I get errors:

There are no care models matching the details for your main car
There are no car models matching the details for your second car
There are no occupation descriptions matching the generic description.

All errors say hit back button and enter a more general occupation
description.

I hit the back button, and I get blank screens.


> >
> >This is what you consider to be a web application?
> >
>
> No, I would NOT expect or accept that from a web application, I await your
> example.

Okay, I've done your quality control work.  If this is what you consider
quality programming, then I have a better understanding why you might
enamored of a tool that does everything for you, regardless of how well it
does it.


> I don't think you've discovered the wizard to do the page layouts
>  in your 5
> min dig.

No, but I did discover the conditional code.  It looks like crap.  And
wizards are hardly a 4GL.


> >I've attached the code required to maintain a data area.  I'm pretty
> >confused as to how this is a 4GL.  It sure looks like a
> combination of DDS
> >and CL code to me.  With hardcoded checking of the CPU type, to boot, so
> >that I conditionally execute code based on the machine I'm running on.
>
> Joe,  are you telling me your product can work on multiple
> platforms without
> checking?
> Are you going to give me a look how it does this?

Actually, yes, my code works on all platforms, because it's written in Java.
Thank you for asking.  But I write middleware, not applications.  And you
still didn't answer the question of how that incredibly dirty bit of code is
a 4GL.



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