Re: DB2/400 comparisons with other relational databases (specifically Oracle and SQL Server)

Chris,
That is Paul Conte who wrote the db2/400 book and also Mike Otey.I have
followed
these two and I "think" and am pretty sure that they prefer SQL Server .
I was inspired by there SQL Server Developers Guide's two books and also
other magazine articles by Mike.
Its my opion only and I stand by my choice of SQL Server over Oracle.
cheers Dave


----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Rehm" <javadisciple@earthlink.net>
To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: DB2/400 comparisons with other relational databases
(specifically Oracle and SQL Server)


> On Friday 28 September 2001 01:54 am, Server Dave wrote:
> > Chris,
> > I dont want to enter into a Holy war,I will look around and provide
links
> > (non microsoft).
>
> You know how "Holy wars" about stuff like this get started? It comes from
> people posting their opinions as fact. Like when I say, "There is no
question
> that the AS/400 is a better, faster, lower cost platform than any other
> available today."  My neighbor who is looking for a web browser (not a
> server) might disagree.
>
> So, when you posted your "start a Holy War" post, Joe Pluta fired off with
a
> very good response. He asked you for specifics. You have not responded to
any
> of his requests. In other words, your opinion isn't really based on a set
of
> facts that can be quantified for discussion.
>
> You "like" or "feel good" about your choice and the platform that you wish
to
> recommend. That is fine. I like the things I recommend. But when you make
> statements asserting relative value (ie. "product A is better than product
> B") you should be actually basing that on some tangible facts that others
> might also be able to judge.
>
> If you said, "SQL2k has a lower cost of ownership than Oracle when being
used
> to handle a 1 to 5 gig database being accessed by under 100 users." and
had
> some figures or experience to back that up, then there isn't any kind of
> "Holy War" created. Instead, we are all just better informed. By the way,
I
> made that up because I have no idea which of them costs more in any
> circumstance.
>
> You posted two links. The first hasn't responed yet and the second doesn't
> give any sort of figures on scalability, it's an article on how to set up
> rules to partition your data base over multiple servers in order to be
> scalable. To me, it seemed to prove the opposite of your claim (ie. that
SQL
> Server 2k was scalable).  I quote, "However, applying this technique to a
> database that contains read/write data is no trivial task."
>
> > At the end of the day,I would not recommend DB2/400 over SQL2000 to a
client
> > that has no AS/400 bagage and is deciding on a new system.
>
> Then you might very well be doing your client great wrong. If you took an
> honest look at Joe's post and realized that you don't have answers to all
> those questions that might give you and idea you are making a decision
> without all the information. Joe asked and you just don't know. The
problem
> is that when your client asks, you won't admit you don't know and just go
> ahead and recommend something.
>
> Who knows, you might get lucky and be right sometimes.
>
> > Go and ask the guy who wrote that famous big duke press book-DB2/400 and
I
> > bet
> > he would tell you the same.
>
> You "bet he would?" Crap, Dave, you are here using this guy as a source
and
> you don't know his name, the name of his book, or have any quote to
support
> your claim?
>
> Well, I bet that scientist guy with the funny hair would disagree! Yeah,
and
> so would that guy who wrote those other books! ;-)
>
> >  Dave
>
> --
> Chris Rehm
> javadisciple@earthlink.net
>
> And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart...
> ...Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. There is none other
> commandment greater than these. Mark 12:30-31
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