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No offense was ever taken, I was just uncertain as to how I would be
considered "production".  Thanks for clearing that up.

I concur with all you've said.  Does anyone have a "perfect" QA world?

Dan Bale
IT - AS/400
Handleman Company
248-362-4400  Ext. 4952
D.Bale@Handleman.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joel Fritz [SMTP:JFritz@sharperimage.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:06 PM
> To:   'midrange-l@midrange.com'
> Subject:      RE: QA testing: need to prove line by line
>
> No offense meant.  In the QA sense, you are in production.  You write
> code
> and develop systems--that's the product.  The idea is to avoid any
> possibility of conflict of interest.  I'm sure you devote a lot of
> time to
> trying to make sure that your code is error free, but there's no
> guarantee
> that everyone feels the same way about their work.
>
> It's important for the independence of the QA group that they develop
> their
> own testing procedures.  It's also important that the QA group be
> independent from managers with hot projects, although that's sometimes
> a
> little harder to do. <g>
>
> Formal QA might require that you follow a development procedure and
> sign a
> document stating that you followed the spec, but the final testing
> should
> not, in a perfect QA world, be your responsibility.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bale, Dan [mailto:D.Bale@handleman.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:31 AM
> > To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> > Subject: RE: QA testing: need to prove line by line
> >
> >
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> > Did you misstate that?  Are you presuming I am in "production"?  As
> a
> > developer, I haven't really thought of myself in that fashion.
> >
> > Anyway, FWIW, QA is just really starting up here.  We still have
> some
> > managers that have hot projects that can't afford delays
> > because of QA.
> > It will be a slow, but deliberate, process.
> >
> > Dan Bale
> > IT - AS/400
> > Handleman Company
> > 248-362-4400  Ext. 4952
> > D.Bale@Handleman.com
> >
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