Re: Permanently Applying PTF's...

Jeff,

You get a pretty go idea of the potential mess I am in...

Yep, realize all you are saying and as part of the sizing deal, I wanted to get 
all the PTF's perm applied
because that can take up a chunk of disk space on a small system (we are 20BG).

And yes, I do plan to do all of the PTF's for V4R5 too.

And we have 40GB of disk to put on...

But here is the kicker... It took the folks around here forever to agree to get 
the disk and upgrade to V4R5.
Back when I proposed this, we were in pretty good shape but I knew there would 
come a time when that would not
be the case... So we talk to our BP (the ones that sold them the system 
originally before I got here) and get
V4R5 ordered and additional disk. So I get the disk in here and talk to a buddy 
who is a former IBM CE and he
says "These disks can't be put on a V4R1 box, you have to be on V4R5)"... So I 
talk to our BP and and they
check and SURE ENOUGH that's the case... Grrrr - well thanks on HECK of a lot...

So here I am...

Thanks,

Chuck

Jeff Bull wrote:

> The serious question you should be asking yourself is ... do you have enough
> disk space to upgrade to v4r5; it is a fair bit larger than v4r1. If space
> is so tight  you are worrying about permanently applying PTFs, you should go
> back to the calculations for disk space required for the upgrade.
> Another disk space issue at upgrade time is that it will take longer for the
> up[grade to complete.
> Also, are you planning to apply the latest cum PTFs for v4r5 after the
> upgrade - current is two CDs; and group PTFs ?
>
> If I were in your shoes I'd be buying in new disk as a matter of some
> urgency.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Jeff Bull
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chuck Lewis [mailto:clewis@iquest.net]
> Sent: 23 August 2001 15:34
> To: Midrange-L List
> Subject: Permanently Applying PTF's...
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> Getting ready to do an OS upgrade (V4R1 to V4R5 FINALLY) in the coming
> weeks and going down the check list of stuff to do. I need to get PTF's
> permanently applied which is no real problem but I do have one question:
>
> Until an IPL when these actually do get applied (well the ones that need
> at IPL to apply) does this actually increase storage ?
>
> Reason I ask is we are "cramped for disk space" and I started with some
> of the smaller LICPGM's (i.e. Performance Tools, App Dev, etc.) and did
> them and noticed that a bunch of stuff was placed in the library QRPLOBG
> which of course gets cleared at IPL. My fear is that if I Apply all of
> the temp PTF's, this library will grow and I might have a problem. When
> all users are off the disk utilization drops by 5-6% !! So what I would
> do is wait until then to Apply the rest and then IPL (we IPL on
> Sunday)..
>
> Thanks for any information on this !
>
> Chuck
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