RE: APYJRNCHG

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Al, don't know if this would "cross the line" of promoting your product,
but I would like to know how TAA's SAVALLCHG improves on SAVCHGOBJ.  And
likewise the RSTALLCHG command.

Dan Bale
IT - AS/400
Handleman Company
248-362-4400  Ext. 4952
D.Bale@Handleman.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: barsa@barsaconsulting.com [SMTP:barsa@barsaconsulting.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:46 PM
> To:   midrange-l@midrange.com
> Subject:      Re: APYJRNCHG
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> There are commands in TAA Tool to facilitate this.  The SAVALLCHG
> command
> is a slightly better implementation of SAVCHGOBJ.  However the system
> provides no way to restore changes.  However the is a RSTALLCHG tool
> that
> will do this for you.
>
> Al
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> Al Barsa, Jr.
> Barsa Consulting Group, LLC
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> http://www.barsaconsulting.com
> http://www.taatool.com
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> Hello,
>
> we are also looking at journalling to reduce downtime. We do a
> complete
> backup (w/o savsys and not in restricted
> state) each night, but when the crash happens during the day, we'd
> loose
> that daily data.
>
> We had to do a complete system reload two weeks ago, and only
> restoring the
> data (100GB) took 12 hours. I'd guess
> that a reload from savchgobj would take a lot longer?
>
> Anyhow, you'll need a good recovery plan if you go with savchgobj.
>
> Regards,
>
> Oliver
>
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von:          Jim.Nelson@RCIS-NET.COM [SMTP:Jim.Nelson@RCIS-NET.COM]
> > Gesendet am:       Dienstag, 21. August 2001 23:31
> > An:           midrange-l@midrange.com
> > Betreff:           APYJRNCHG
> >
> >
> > We are looking at shortening our backup downtime by going with
> SAVCHGOBJ.
> > Only problem is that we journal most of our files, which means we
> would
> > need
> > to restore from the SAVEALL, then run APYJRNCHG for the daily saves.
> The
> > documentation says to expect a longer recovery time, but no
> estimates.
> >
> > During our 'busy time', we create about 300,000 journal entries per
> day -
> > tables ranging from 150 bytes to over 800.
> >
> > 1.  Anybody have estimates (or an algorithm) on what the recovery
> time
> > would
> > be?  Looking more for those occasional 'restore to a temporary
> library to
> > check data' rather than a complete recovery.  If we ever need a
> reload, a
> > few hours here or there will be the least of my worries!
> >
> > 2.  Any 'tricks' or items to watch for using SAVCHGOBJ and
> APYJRNCHG?
> > Horror stories?
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> > JN