Re: Counting users

Of course if the app is on SystemA and everybody has multiple sessions into 
SystemA and then uses one session to Telnet to SystemA (or to SystemB and back 
to SystemA or...) and then signs on with a generic profile, then every session 
into the app will have the same originating IP address and user profile. I 
suppose it could even be set up as a group job and be done programmatically.

No matter how you do it, there will always be gaping holes.

After all the messages in this thread, it ought to be obvious by now that the 
effort required to make this work reasonably well cannot possibly measure up to 
the effort needed simply to use the IBM-supplied licensing APIs.

Tom Liotta

On Tue, 31 July 2001, "Leif Svalgaard" wrote:

> 
> From: <Ron@cpumms.com>
> > <<I don't get it.
> > <<It would seem to me that a reasonable (and correct?) and
> > <<fair way of doing this is to count the number of simultaneous
> > <<sessions (no matter who the users are and how they are signed
> > <<on and to what) that are USING MY APPLICATION at any time.
> > <<This is very easy to do.
> > 
> > I agree, this is very easy to do (in fact it's currently what we do now)
> > but this is not what they want. If a user can use two sessions to gain
> > faster access to different parts of the application, why should we charge
> > him twice? Their argument is is that they are only on one session at a
> > time.
> > 
> 
> By golly, I got it ! ! !
> Now, then your problem is to prevent users from ripping you off by
> all using the same user id. I can even see that.
> If I'm using your application on my terminal in my office and
> I go downstairs for some reason and need to access your application
> from a different terminal, then I would be charged twice. Maybe
> this happens so rarely that the customers don't complain about it,
> so counting physical terminals seems to be a reasonable
> compromise.

-- 
Tom Liotta
The PowerTech Group, Inc.
19426 68th Avenue South
Kent, WA 98032
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Fax  253-872-7904
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