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  • Subject: RE: Default for command without default value?
  • From: rob@xxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:43:10 -0500


Don't know nothing about retroactive stuff.  Especially since some of those
releases are no longer supported.

Yes, you will get the C programs on your V4R5 CD's.  But you better compile
like crazy because the key will expire after so many days.

With V5R1 you will get all the keys to 5722WDS, if you had PDM and at least
one compiler at an earlier release.
5722-WDS includes:
Licensed  Product
Program   Option   Description
5722WDS    *BASE   WebSphere Development ToolSet
5722WDS    21      Tools - Application Development
5722WDS    31      Compiler - ILE RPG IV
5722WDS    32      Compiler - System/36 Compatible RPG II
5722WDS    33      Compiler - System/38 Compatible RPG III
5722WDS    34      Compiler - RPG/400
5722WDS    35      Compiler - ILE RPG IV *PRV
5722WDS    41      Compiler - ILE COBOL
5722WDS    42      Compiler - System/36 Compatible COBOL
5722WDS    43      Compiler - System/38 Compatible COBOL
5722WDS    44      Compiler - OPM COBOL
5722WDS    45      Compiler - ILE COBOL *PRV
5722WDS    51      Compiler - ILE C
5722WDS    52      Compiler - ILE C++
5722WDS    53      Compiler - ILE C *PRV
5722WDS    54      Compiler - ILE C++ *PRV
5722WDS    55      IBM Open Class - source and samples
5722WDS    60      Workstation Tools - Base
5722WDS    61      Workstation Tools - WebFacing, CODE
5722WDS    62      Workstation Tools - VisualAge RPG
5722WDS    63      Workstation Tools - WebSphere Studio
5722WDS    64      Workstation Tools - VisualAge for Java

Rob Berendt

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I understand that Code/400 and eveyrthing else went back a few versions.
We now have Code/400 with the upgrade to V4R5 so I understand we are going
to be getting C too.

There was a discussion on this a while back (4 months ago?) in Midrange-L
or this list, dont' remember which, where it was determined that Code/400
and such were retroactive a few releases (V4R4 with PTF or V4R5, dont'
remember).

I could be wrong, of course, but I don't think so.

Regards,

Jim Langston

I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.

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[mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of rob@dekko.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 11:27 AM
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Subject: RE: Default for command without default value?



Jim,

C doesn't come as part of the 'package deal' until V5R1.  Then you get
Code/400 and everything else.

Rob Berendt

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Barbara et al,

Yes, I did see the command source that Al Barsa posted, and took a look at
it,
but I am one that always wants the freshest copy of source.  Also, we're on
V4R4M0
and I didn't notice what version the source Al Barsa sent was (could of
been
the
same across versions, I just don't know).

As it is, at this point I'm not changing anything, I'm just manually
changing the
compile options when I compile (I'll probably create a PDA option for
myself).

I'll talk this over with my boss (got one in IS now) and see what he
thinks.
I
downloaded and created the library for RTVCMDSRC, but I dont' think we have
a
C compiler on this box, I'll have to check, pretty sure we don't though.  I
under-
stand, however, that C compilers come with RPG now?  We have V4R5 on the
shelf
that no one has bothered to upgrade yet, perhaps we'll get the C compiler
with that
and then I'll be good to go.

Frankly, I'm not real happy with any of the provided solutions, as I'd
rather just
change the default on the IBM supplied command, but that's just not
possible
it
seems.  Hopefully IBM will rectify that in some future release (ADDCMDDFT
maybe).

Thank you for all the information, everyone, still have to decide what
route
to
go though.  I can no longer make decisions based solely on what I feel is
best
anymore, now got a team to think about.

Regards,

Jim Langston

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From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
[mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of bmorris@ca.ibm.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 9:38 AM
To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
Subject: RE: Default for command without default value?



>Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:44:24 -0700
>From: "JIM LANGSTON" <JLANGSTON@CELSINC.COM>
>
>Ahh, that sounds like a plan.  If I could retrieve the CMD source for the
>CRTRPGPGM it would be a simple matter for me to edit it and add a default
>for OPTION.  Any clue as to what this home grown command might be called?
>I'll search for RTVCMDSRC and see if anything pops up.

Jim, didn't you notice that Al Barsa posted the CMD source already?  But
I doubt that it will help you.  You can set up a SNGVAL with *SRCDBG, but
as soon as anyone enters some other option, that default goes back to
*NOSRCDBG.  You can't set defaults for all the options.

Me, I'd go the PDM route.  It shouldn't be too hard to get your
co-workers accustomed to compiling with a PDM option.  Especially if you
all agree that using *SRCDBG is a good idea.

Do your folks currently type CRTRPGPGM on the command line?  If so, they
may be ready to learn about PDM.  If not, how are you going to get them
to use your new command instead of using 14?

One more problem with creating your own command to call CRTRPGPGM's CPP
is that it won't work at security level 50.  I'm not sure about 40.

Barbara Morris

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