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  • Subject: RE: Midrange Computing Closed
  • From: boothm@xxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:55:55 -0400


People talk about "at will" employment as if it is all one sided.  It isn't one-sided at all.   The employee has every right to quit anytime he wants, with no notice whatsoever if he so wishes.  Why shouldn't the other party to that employment arrangement have the same right?

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Further, in some states like my own Illinois, employment is entirely "at
will."  That is, you can be hired and fired for any reason (or no reason),
the sole exception being discrimination.  Now if the company does
interstate commerce, Federal laws come into play, but these are still
heavily in favor of the employer for the most part.






Joel Fritz <JFritz@sharperimage.com>
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Completely legal.  In recent years many US employers, in order to prevent
wrongful termination lawsuits, have adopted an "at will employment"
policy.
Employees are required to sign a document acknowledging that the employer
may let them go for no stated reason at any time.  There is a federal law
that requires large employers who are planning to lay off more than a
certain number of people (1000?) at a given location to give 60 days
notice.


A very common strategy for "small" mass layoffs is that employees are
given
no notice til the day of the layoff.  On the day of the layoff they come
to
work only to find the building closed.  They are then allowed to enter the
building for a short time accompanied by a security guard in order to get
personal belongings.  We trust each other over here. <g>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: McCallion, Martin [mailto:MccalliM@Midas-Kapiti.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 9:14 AM
> To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
> Subject: RE: Midrange Computing Closed
>
>
> Al Barsa said:
> > All of
> > the employees were terminated yesterday, and they're all
> > looking for jobs
> > now.  They got no severance, or anything.
>
> Is that legal in the States?  It wouldn't be here (UK) -- at least for
> employees who had  two years+ service.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Martin.
>
> --
>
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