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  • Subject: Vegas 400 shoppes....was (something else)
  • From: Don <dr2@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 23:30:15 -0400 (EDT)



Tom,

So, tell me, why with all those 400 shops in Vegas is there no users
group in Vegas??




On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Westdorp, Tom wrote:

> To clarify:
> 
> MGM Mirage (MGM Grand, Mirage, Treasure Island, Bellagio) use Tandem
> computers.  Mirage wanted to use Back Office and blew millions trying.  They
> won't run a /400 if there's any alternative, with no apparent regard to cost
> effectiveness.
> 
> /400's are at:
> Harrah's & Rio
> Park Place Entertainment (Caesars, Bally's, Flamingo Hilton, Paris, Big
> Hilton)
> Aladdin
> Mandalay Resort Group (Circus Circus, Luxor, Mandalay, Excalibur)
> Sahara
> Riviera
> Frontier (not sure if 400's still there)
> Tropicana
> New York, New York
> Monte Carlo
> 4 Queens
> Stardust
> in Primm, Whiskey Pete's and Buffalo Bill's
> and last, but not least!, Station Casinos (Palace, Boulder, Sunset, Texas,
> Santa Fe, Fiesta, Reserve, Wild Wild West, Barley's and (Coming Soon) Green
> Valley Ranch)
> 
> Tahoe has /400's at Harrah's, Harveys, Caesars and there used to be /400's
> at the other too (forget the name)
> 
> Reno has /400's at Bally's, Flamingo Hilton, Harrah's, Peppermill
> 
> Atlantic City may well be all /400's as most are owned by Trump, Harrah's,
> or Park Place and those are all /400 shops.
> 
> There may be others in hotel/casino, too.  I'm old and forget things.
> 
> By /400 I mean some variant of /400, /400e, e(logo)server iSeries.
> 
> 
> Tom Westdorp
> Station Casinos
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jpcarr@tredegar.com
> To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> Sent: 6/19/01 6:30 PM
> Subject: Re: i NATION ListServer Confusion/ownership
> 
> 
> Chris
> Without a doubt that needs to be done too.  I think Vega was around 70%
> AS/400's at the casinos and Atlantic City near 100 % of the casinos.   I
> think the Mirage(?) was just written up for a system where hotel people
> meet you at the door with Palm's and register you,  check you in, encode
> your room key all while you are just coming thru the door(everything
> going
> to the AS/400 of course).  You never have to see the front desk.     The
> war has a couple of front lines.    (oh ya,  how many know that the war
> crime court in The Hague has all it's files on an AS/400).    These ALL
> need to be done.    We can all pick a battle that interests us.
> 
> John
> 
> ----------------------------------
> 
> I am slightly more reserved in my visions. I just have visions of the
> many
> people who actually depend on AS/400s finding out about it. In Las
> Vegas,
> every major property operates primarily off of IBM midrange (or at least
> they all did). That's because Las Vegas requires 24/7 dependability.
> Even
> the Mirage Resorts, which tried several very expensive projects to
> replace
> their 400s with NT had to keep the boxes around for handling business
> infrastructure.
> But how many employees know their paychecks were printed on a 400? Or
> how
> many people had any idea their rooms, banking, phone services, whatever
> were handled by AS/400 because that machine kept purring.
> I used to equate it to a pacemaker. When you buy a pacemaker, will you
> pick
> the shiniest, or the most reliable? If your manager bought you the
> shiniest, was he really a good manager?
> Chris Rehm <javadisciple@earthlink.net
> 
> 
> -----------------------------------
> jpcarr@tredegar.com wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I have visions of magazines getting 5,000 to 10,000 emails asking for
> iSeries coverage in stead of 5 to 10 emails.
> 
> I have visions of IBM people getting 5,000 - 10,000 messages about our
> views instead of 5 to 10 messages.
> 
> 
> John Carr
> 
> 
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