RE: fireproof backups

Yes I can. 
 
Hoss

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com [mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On
Behalf Of Bale, Dan
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 4:04 PM
To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
Subject: RE: fireproof backups



How would you restore your system in case of a disaster?  Can you restore
from your storage server in Disaster Recovery mode?

- Dan 
Dan Bale says "BAN DALE!" 
IT - AS/400 
Handleman Company 
248-362-4400  Ext. 4952 
D.Bale@Handleman.com 
  Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur. 
  (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.) 

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        -----Original Message----- 
From:   owner-midrange-l@midrange.com [SMTP:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]
On Behalf Of Bruce Collins 
Sent:   Monday, June 18, 2001 4:54 PM 
To:     MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com 
Subject:        RE: fireproof backups 

        Dan, I have a Very Large storage server 120GB that I backup to. I
save the library and/or objects to a save file and then I ftp'm to my
storage server. I have a routine that I rotate what libraries are backed up
each night. If you have multiple sites on your campus you might think of
using fiber optic and a large storage server. This will not help with a save
sys but it is one way to accomplish the job.

        Hoss 

        -----Original Message----- 
From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com 
[ mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
<mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com> ]On Behalf Of Bale, Dan 
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 12:05 PM 
To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com 
Subject: fireproof backups 


        Time to touch on a "hot" topic around here.  Someone up in my 
organization has decided that we need to fireproof our remote AS/400 
backup units.  The idea is to enclose the backup unit in its own 
fireproof vault.  I imagine that this would also be our answer to secure 
the backup media as well.  Has anyone done this?  Wouldn't these units 
have to be cooled in some manner to offset the heat generated by the 
tape drive?  Below is some information we received from a vendor.  Has 
anyone had experience with the Mammoth tape drives on the AS/400? 

        TO GET THE FIREPROOF TAPE SOLUTION FOR YOUR (5) AS/400'S THAT WOULD
DO 
BACKUPS FOR A WEEK AUTOMATICALY WITH NO INTERVENTION YOU WOULD NEED THE 
FOLLOWING THINGS. 

        (4) MAMMOTH 1 TAPE UNITS WITH SEVEN TAPE AUTOLOADER: $9500.00 EACH 
(1) MAMMOTH 2 TAPE UNIT WITH SEVEN TAPE AUTOLOADER: $14500.00 EACH 

        (5) FIREPROOF CUSTOM CABINETS GIVING PROTECTION FOR TWO HOURS AT UP
TO 
350 DEGREES: $5995.00 EACH 
DELIVERY OF THE CUSTOM BOXES WOULD BE ABOUT 4-6 WEEKS 

        TAPES FOR MAMMOTH 1 TAPE UNITS  $60.00 EACH 

        TAPES FOR MAMMOTH 2 TAPE UNIT   $82.00 EACH 

        EACH AS/400 WOULD NEED A 6501 TAPE ATTACH FEATURE IF THE MACHINE
DOES 
NOT HAVE ONE. A 6501 COST IS $200.00 PLUS IBM WOULD NEED TO INSTALL IT 
IF THE MACHINE DOES NOT HAVE ONE. 

        THE MAMMOTH TAPE UNITS COME WITH A ONE YEAR IBM ONSITE WARRANTY. 

        THE OTHER ISSUE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF IS THE SOFTWARE
TO 
RUN BACKUPS FOR A WEEK WITH NO HUMAN LABOR DURING THE WEEK. YOU HAVE 
THREE OPTIONS THAT I KNOW OF 

        1. SOMEONE ON YOUR STAFF DOES THE PROGRAMMING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. 
2. YOU HAVE OR BUY IBM SOFTWARE PRODUCT CALLED B.R.M.S. THE COST FOR 
THIS SOFTWARE IS BASED OF THE PROCESSOR ON YOUR MACHINE BUT I HAVE BEEN 
TOLD IT COULD RUN $3000-$6000 PER MACHINE. 
3. TAPE MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE FROM LXI THAT IS ALSO BASED ON THE PROCESSOR 
FOR EACH MACHINE IT IS LOADED ON. 


        - Dan 
Dan Bale says "BAN DALE!" 
IT - AS/400 
Handleman Company 
248-362-4400  Ext. 4952 
D.Bale@Handleman.com 
  Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur. 
  (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.) 

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