Re: fireproof backups -- MIDRANGE-L

Lots of folks running LPAR Dan.

You can certainly have redundant communications routes into your facilities too (we had that here in town (Indianapolis) at the last place I worked...). Use ISDN backup or something. Have some hot spares for key comm equipment, etc. At the last place I worked we were running sites ALL over the US and Canada off of one box and we were a manufacturer with warehousing and R&D, etc.

Of COURSE you can trust me Dan buddy and you folks are RIGHT down the street here ! BUMMER that we can't hook up ! Let me know if you do get some extra time !

And Neil make a good point about the hole in the vault for the SCSI cable...

Chuck

"Bale, Dan" wrote:

Actually, I have thought about having an LPAR box here with one partition for each branch in lieu of having an AS/400 box at each branch. Our comms guy gets a little twitchy when he hears that though. One point of failure, plus if comms go down, everything stops at the branches.
We're as "regionalized" as we're gonna be.
Hey, Chuck, how about you? Just stop in at our Indy branch every morning on your way to work. Are you a trusty kind of guy? <g> (I'm gonna be in your part of town Wednesday thru Friday this week, a big company annual pow-wow at the Adam's Mark near the airport, but all of our waking hours appear to be accounted for. Maybe next time, buddy! <g>)
Dan Bale
IT - AS/400
Handleman Company
248-362-4400 Ext. 4952
D.Bale@Handleman.com
Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
(Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
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-----Original Message-----
From:   Chuck Lewis [SMTP:clewis@iquest.net]
Sent:   Monday, June 18, 2001 5:02 PM
To:     MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
Subject:        Re: fireproof backups
So why don't they just centralize the AS/400's ? Or "regionalize" them with trained/trusted staff ?
"Bale, Dan" wrote:
Actually, there are some fireproof vaults made to withstand the heat that would render tapes unusable, but they ain't cheap!
>All you have to do is trust personnel transporting the media to take prudent
>care of them like not leaving in direct sunlight, storing in car trunk in all
>weather, do not lean up against a telephone etc.
Well, that's the big question. Since it's my a** that's on the line here, I'm not inclined to rely on this to happen.
- Dan
Dan Bale says "BAN DALE!"
IT - AS/400
Handleman Company
248-362-4400 Ext. 4952
D.Bale@Handleman.com
Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
(Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
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        -----Original Message-----
From:   MacWheel99@aol.com [SMTP:MacWheel99@aol.com]
Sent:   Monday, June 18, 2001 3:59 PM
To:     MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
Subject:        Re: fireproof backups
        We have a fire proof safe
We use it for storing some stuff that we need to lock up sometimes
We do not fool ourselves that magnetic medeia in there will be useable in the
after math of a real fire
Fire Proof means the papers won't burn
it does not mean magnetic media won't melt
        Off site rotation of backups is dirt cheap
All you have to do is trust personnel transporting the media to take prudent
care of them like not leaving in direct sunlight, storing in car trunk in all
weather, do not lean up against a telephone etc.
        MacWheel99@aol.com (Alister Wm Macintyre) (Al Mac)