Re: Displaying License Keys -- MIDRANGE-L

Excellent. I desire to be there but alas I am speaking during that hour.

Thanks to Lief for pointing out how to get the software serial number.
However I must say that I would not consider this a method the average
customer should be either familiar with or expected to do.

 - Larry

Neil Palmer wrote:
> 
> Larry,
> 
> Yep - already preparing to Sound-Off about this !  ;-)
> 
> ...Neil
> 
> Larry Bolhuis <lbolhuis@arbsol.com>
> Sent by: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
> 2001/05/06 16:17
> Please respond to MIDRANGE-L
> 
> 
>         To:     MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
>         cc:
>         Subject:        Re: Displaying License Keys
> 
> There actually IS a software serial number for each system. This number
> is SO top secret that not only do virtually all customers not know what
> their's is, they don't even know that it exists.
> 
>   Way back in the V3R1 days when IBM created the conditions that would
> require a new 'System Password', (I'm not sure that's the correct term
> but it's what's required to complete an IPL after certain significant
> upgrades or extended power off times) we needed that 'password'. Well as
> a Business Partner we had access to some forms to fill out and one of
> them was a request for this 'password'. On the form was a place for the
> software serial number. As I didn't have it I rattled my local branch
> and they got it for me but only specifically because I needed for that
> form. I was later told that a) I was Never supposed to have that serial
> number, b) The IBMer who gave it to me could have been fired, c) there
> is no way to see it on the system, d) it is Never printed on any
> documents that come with the system. And interestinly a couple days
> later that form dissapeared from the BP area on IBMLINK as well.
> 
>   I just can't imagine IBM requiring a customer to provide THEM with the
> number because you never have it.
> 
>   We have had many run-ins with the key center but never one such as
> this where IBM is requiring a customer to have something IBM will not
> give them!
> 
>   Sounds like a very good item for Sound Off. Will you be at COMMON?
> 
>   - Larry
> 
> Neil Palmer wrote:
> >
> > Well, if that's what it is I can't name a single customer of ours that
> > kept that after a release was installed.  :-(
> >
> > ...Neil
> >
> > "Alex A Moore" <alexm@ELLISHOSIERY.COM>
> > Sent by: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
> > 2001/05/06 04:50
> > Please respond to MIDRANGE-L
> >
> >
> >         To:     <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
> >         cc:
> >         Subject:        RE: Displaying License Keys
> >
> > Neil,
> >
> >         I believe that IBM is refering to the serial number that is
> > printed on the
> > document that looks like a "packing slip", and is shipped with software
> > orders.  It looks like the hardware serial number, 5 to 7 alpha numeric.
> > It
> > may also be on the "media report" that is also shipped with the
> software.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
> > [mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Neil Palmer
> > Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 11:30 PM
> > To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> > Subject: Re: Displaying License Keys
> >
> > Jim,
> >
> > Thanks for the suggestion - that was what I had tried first before a few
> > others mentioned how to display the actual keys.
> > Turns out even that isn't good enough for IBM - I'm being told they
> won't
> > add the software to the customers order record without the "software
> > serial number".  Working with the 400 since 1988 that's the first I've
> > ever heard of a software serial number.  Anyone else know what they're
> > talking about ?
> >
> > ...Neil
> >
> > "Jim Franz" <franz400@triad.rr.com>
> > Sent by: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
> > 2001/05/05 19:52
> > Please respond to MIDRANGE-L
> >
> >         To:     <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
> >         cc:
> >         Subject:        Re: Displaying License Keys
> >
> > neil - would suggest either a print key of WRKLICINF (work license info)
> > detail screen:
> > or the option 6 to print detail. - it includes the system name. If
> system
> > name not same as serial#,
> > then printkey the QSRLNBR sysval (will have same system name). Support
> > could
> > also easily dial in
> > thru ECS to verify.
> > since it would be impossible for this screen to indicate your licensed,
> > had
> > key not been given.
> > jim
> >                           Display License Information
> > S103587A
> >                                                              05/05/01
> > 22:35:55
> >  Product ID  . . . . . . . . :   5769PW1
> >  License term  . . . . . . . :   V4R4M0
> >  Feature . . . . . . . . . . :   5050
> >  Description . . . . . . . . :   Application Development ToolSet/400
> -SEU
> >
> >  Compliance type . . . . . . :   *KEYED
> >  Usage type  . . . . . . . . :   *CONCURRENT
> >
> >  Usage limit . . . . . . . . :   *NOMAX
> >  Last update . . . . . . . . :   09/18/99  12:17:32
> >
> >  Threshold . . . . . . . . . :   *NOMAX
> >
> >  Usage count . . . . . . . . :   0
> >
> >  Peak Usage Information:
> >    Peak usage  . . . . . . . :   1
> >    Last peak . . . . . . . . :   09/18/99  14:20:25
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Neil Palmer" <neilp@dpslink.com>
> > To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 3:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: Displaying License Keys
> >
> > > ?
> > >
> > > ...Neil
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > barsa@barsaconsulting.com
> > > Sent by: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
> > > 2001/05/04 21:44
> > > Please respond to MIDRANGE-L
> > >
> > >
> > >         To:     MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> > >         cc:
> > >         Subject:        Re: Displaying License Keys
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > No, it doesn't happen.
> > >
> > > Al
> > >
> > > Al Barsa, Jr.
> > > Barsa Consulting Group, LLC
> > >
> > > 400>390
> > >
> > > 914-251-1234
> > > 914-251-9406 fax
> > >
> > > http://www.barsaconsulting.com
> > > http://www.taatool.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >                     neilp@dpslink.com
> > >                     Sent by:                   To:
> > MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> > >                     owner-midrange-l@mi        cc:
> > >                     drange.com                 Subject:     Displaying
> > > License Keys
> > >
> > >
> > >                     05/04/01 03:14 AM
> > >                     Please respond to
> > >                     MIDRANGE-L
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyone know of a way to display the 18 byte license key that has been
> > > entered via ADDLICKEY ?
> > > (Maybe a DMPOBJ of the *PRDLOD object  - although I can't seem to see
> it
> > > there).
> > >
> > > We have a customer who has licensed RPG & Dev Tools.  As is all too
> > > common, IBM's records are screwed up and they don't show the customer
> > > having Dev Tools - yet the license key has been entered on the system
> > with
> > > *NOMAX for users - and who else BUT IBM could have given them the
> > license
> > > key in the first place ?  I figure if we tell them the license key
> > they'll
> > > have to admit the customer must have been licensed for it and fix
> their
> > > records.  I wouldn't have thought they would have made it difficult to
> > > display the key - after all, it's only good on the system you would be
> > > displaying it from.
> > >
> > > Yes the customer screwed up and can't locate the paper with the
> license
> > > key or the "proof of purchase" document that IBM ships in that garish
> > pink
> > > & black striped cover (hoping I suppose that it will be seen and kept
> -
> > > but maybe it was spotted by the fashion police and thrown out).
> > >
> > > ...Neil
> >
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Larry Bolhuis           | Cogito ergo mercari iSeries 
Arbor Solutions, Inc.   |
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