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They were in use at remote offices.  I had offices that only had 2 - 3
employees.  they ran there own warehouses.  The systems were originally used
with a lease line and connected to our main system.  They were upgraded when
we purchased our model 200 at V3R2 and they had distributed license?  I
think that was the term. they both have network cards and are in place out
our main office just as a storage for the remote offices data.


----- Original Message -----
From: <rob@dekko.com>
To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: FTP on V3R2


>
> And what was the business case for upgrading the operating system on
those?
>
> Rob Berendt
>
> ==================
> Remember the Cole!
>
>
>
>                     "Scott Swaim"
>                     <sswaim@qualitycorp        To:
<MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
>                     s.com>                     cc:
>                     Sent by:                   Subject:     Re: FTP on
V3R2
>                     owner-midrange-l@mi
>                     drange.com
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>                     03/20/01 11:50 AM
>                     Please respond to
>                     MIDRANGE-L
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I currently still have a B-10 and a B-20 up and running.  Both are at V3R2
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Klement" <klemscot@klements.com>
> To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 10:22 AM
> Subject: Re: FTP on V3R2
>
>
> >
> > I wasn't aware that the B10 couldn't run V3.  We had a B35 running V3 at
> > one point, so I assumed that all the B-series would upgrade to V3.
> > If they truly left B10 users high and dry, then YES I think IBM was
> > foolish in that decision.
> >
> > My original point, however, was that if you don't like IBM's decision to
> > do something like this, the correct response is "I won't upgrade".  In
> > other words, if you're not pleased with one of IBM's decisions, you
> > shouldn't encourage that decision by giving IBM money.
> >
> > Naturally to people like you who don't mind these decisions, you should
> > continue to buy the upgrades.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 rob@dekko.com wrote:
> > >
> > > And what is the highest release you would run on a B10?  I once argued
> > > against upgrading one special purpose 400 (E04) from V2R3 to V3
because
> of
> > > the huge disk eating size of the database cross reference files which
> first
> > > came out in V3.  QADBIFLD on 1 of our 400's is 1.8gb.  So take this
> highest
> > > version you would put on a B10, and if it is less than V3R2, then in
> your
> > > opinion did IBM shoot themselves in the foot long ago by dropping a
> whole
> > > class of machines which were serving their purpose?  And yes a B10 is
a
> > > fair comparison to some of the larger CISC machines.  Just compare the
> > > performance of the latest RISC machines against these same CISC
> machines.
> > >
> > > Rob Berendt
> > >
> > > ==================
> > > Remember the Cole!
> > >
> > >
> > > What bothers me is not the dropping of support for old releases, but
> > > rather the dropping of support for CISC machines that are still
working
> > > just fine and serving their purpose.
> > >
> > > I think its unfortunate that V3R2 is the most recent release for CISC
> > > machines -- but since it is, it should not be dropped.
> > >
> > > And thats the difference between dropping support for V1R2 and V3R2.
> > > When you drop V3R2 you drop an entire hardware platform.
> > >
> > >
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