Re: Complete Save via CL Command?

Al,

"Al Barsa, Jr." wrote:
> 
> At 04:11 PM 4/30/00 -0700, you wrote:
> 
> John,
> 
> When SAVSTG was written, it was a faster way to save the entire system
> (including queue data, which cannot be saved otherwise without
> extraordinary procedures) than a GO SAVE option 21.  Today with a
> sufficiently fast enough processor, enough memory, and a fast tape drive,
> GO SAVE option 21 is better (although queue data is omitted).

Are you saying that a Go Save would be faster (or even
competitive) with a SAVSTG?  

Given this limited scenario, I'm under the impression that a
SAVSTG is the better way to go:

Software developer has a small test AS/400 that sometimes needs to
be set to a given OS release.  If the Sysadmin has on separate
tapes a snapshot of the system at V3R7, V4R1, V4R2, etc. and
wiches to reload a particular configuration for the purposes of
testing, do you believe that SAVSTG/RSTSTG would not necessarily
be the fastest way to do this?

I'm interested because we are considering this approach for one of
our systems.

jte




> 
> Al
> 
> >Henrik,
> >
> >Henrik Krebs wrote:
> > >
> > > Maybe SAVSTG? Check it.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure if it is possibly to submit a job to controlling subsystem
> > with an
> > > ENDSBS(*ALL) + SAVSTG. Anyway SAVSTG is not a 'good' save command,
> > which is why I don't
> > > know much about it.
> >
> >SAVSTG takes a complete (bit level) system snapshot, and expects
> >to restore that snapshot to essentially the same hardware
> >configuration.  It's usefull if you want to quickly save and
> >replace an entire disk configuration, but it is worthless to the
> >point of dangerous for daily backups.  You can't selectivley
> >restore (libraries or objects), and you could be extremely hard
> >pressed to restore to an alternate machine.
> >
> >jte
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Henrik Krebs
> > >
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> > > Henrik Krebs
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> > >
> > > >Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:46:33 -0500
> > > >From: "Michele Reinkemeyer"<mreinkemeyer@mbsbooks.com>
> > > >Subject: Complete Save via CL Command?
> > > >
> > > >I was told (when I first started dealing with the AS/400 and still
> > barely knew
> > > >how to spell it) that there is a way to run a complete system save
> > using a CL
> > > >command through a job scheduled entry.  Is anyone familiar with
> > this?  If so,
> > > >would you be willing to share that CL command?  I want to implement
> > such on 3 of
> > > >my AS/400's since I am an hr and a half from office and don't care to
> > drive in
> > > >each weekend.
> > > >
> > > >Thanks in advance,
> > > >
> > > >Michele R
> > >
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