RE: Value of certification

This comes up on a periodic basis.  The value of this tends to be on 
your own personal experiences and paradigm.

I've been to interviews in which the certification was all you need to 
get through the technical part of the interview.

Some will argue that testing is meaningless.  These may be the same people 
that argue against standardized testing in schools.

Some will argue that the tests themselves are flawed.  Their argument 
may include that they have RPGIV on the test and that there are many jobs 
out there for people who have no desire to learn or grow, at least for 
the interim.





HANSMANL@siouxvalley.org on 04/04/2000 10:22:01 AM
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I agree with Bill - the IBM Tech Conferences are very good!  Granted, I have
never been to Common, but if I had a choice I would pick IBM Tech
Conference.  What does everyone think about IBM Certifications?  I am
working towards these (my own pocket, so far), and would appreciate any
comment.  Are they worth it?  Do they help?  
Lee

> ----------
> From:         Bill Erhardt[SMTP:ERHARDT@baldwinhq.com]
> Reply To:     MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> Sent:         Tuesday, April 04, 2000 7:07 AM
> To:   'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
> Subject:      RE: The "greying of Common"  Is it still true?
> 
> Everyone talks about COMMON as if its the only venue for training related
> to
> the AS/400.  Have any of you attended the IBM technical conference?  I've
> been around the mid range offerings since the hey days of S/3 15D and for
> my
> money the IBM conference is a much more rewarding experience then COMMON.
> 
> Just One Persons Opinion
> Bill Erhardt 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:       Steve Martin [SMTP:smartin@carefreeofcolorado.com]
> > Sent:       Monday, April 03, 2000 1:47 PM
> > To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> > Subject:    RE: The "greying of Common"  Is it still true?
> > 
> >     <snip>COMMON attendees should not be
> >     construed as a representitive sampling of AS/400 shops.  There are
> >     a lot of youngsters around, they all just don't know how to wangle
> >     a trip to COMMON out of the boss.
> > 
> >     To ask the questions another way, how many of the folks that
> >     attend COMMON have to "ask" to go?  How many just write their own
> >     tickets? </snip>
> > 
> > I am not yet 40. I've been on the AS/400 since Jan.1990 - System38
> before
> > that.
> > 
> > I have asked, hinted, suggested, and otherwise enumerated the reasons
> why
> > I
> > think it would be beneficial to attend COMMON... and I've never been
> > there.
> > 
> > My manager (since June, last) has participated (COMMON) in the past but
> > makes little effort to budget that in - even with his experience. The
> way
> > I
> > see it, as long as some of you get to go, as long as many of you are
> > willing
> > to share what you've learned, and as long as you remain members of this
> > list
> > - I get my education from all of you.
> > 
> > Steve Martin
> > Programmer/Analyst
> > Carefree of Colorado
> > 303/410.6239
> > smartin@carefreeofcolorado.com
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