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RE: DR Plan - Got one? Will it work?


  • Subject: RE: DR Plan - Got one? Will it work?
  • From: Art Baker <Art_Baker@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 17:25:18 -0400

fixed

Sounds good Bruce. I don't know if IBM doesn't want to bother implementing
your suggestion or they have a reason not to. One time, on a late Friday
night I threw in a tape for a SAVCHGOBJ save and ran out the door for
another appointment. Well the system sat there all weekend with a message
that needed replying to. It was not big deal since it was a test machine
that only myself and one another guy was using. But if it is a production
machine, somebody better be in the area in case anything happens. Also, saw
a backup bomb-out once with a damaged tape. The damaged part of the tape
didn't show up until it had been running for three hours. So, if IBM
implemented a feature for scheduling saves days in advance, I'd still want
someone to check on the machine when the save operation is scheduled to kick
off.
Art  

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   brucefoot@hotmail.com [mailto:brucefoot@hotmail.com]
                Sent:   Monday, April 03, 2000 2:25 PM
                To:     MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
                Subject:        Re: DR Plan - Got one?  Will it work?

                Art,

                I agree absolutely about GO ASSIST for a Full System Save,
but wouldn't it
                be great if IBM added one little feature - the ability to
schedule it 3 or 4
                days in advance? I've been begging for this so that I can
advise customers
                to use it on Sunday Nights, so that when they come in on
Monday morning,
                "voila!", ready, pop the tapes in storage, away you go!

                Ah, in the ideal world ......

                ----- Original Message -----
                From: "Art Baker" <Art_Baker@baan.com>
                To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
                Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 4:44 AM
                Subject: RE: DR Plan - Got one? Will it work?


                > I'm not challenging you on this AL but adding to this
thread, I never hear
                > of anyone using GO ASSIST for doing saves on this list.
It's a great menu
                > system for saving data. If your doing an ENTIRE SYSTEM
save, it will put
                the
                > system in the restricted state and restart the system
after it completes
                the
                > save. For somebody like Sue, she could suggest to this
company she is
                > dealing with to use GO ASSIST.
                > Art
                >
                > -----Original Message-----
                > From: Al Barsa, Jr. [mailto:barsa2@ibm.net]
                > Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 11:27 AM
                > To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
                > Subject: Re: DR Plan - Got one?  Will it work?
                >
                > At 11:02 AM 04/03/2000 -0400, you wrote:
                >
                > Hi,
                >
                > Our save strategy is to do a save option 21 periodically,
                > and then to do a
                > save of changed objects every day from every library,
                > referencing the
                > date/time of the save option 21.  We happen to use the
                > SAVALLCHG command in
                > TAA Tool, which predates SAVCHGOBJ's ability to specify
                > LIB(*ALLUSR).  It
                > addition we do a SAVSECDTA and a SAVCFG every day, both of
                > which do not
                > require a restricted state.
                >
                > IMHO, this is sufficient.  I welcome anyone who would like
                > to challenge this.
                >
                > Al
                >
                >
                > >Friends,
                > >
                > >Myself and others have spent the past 10 days or so
                > assisting a company in
                > >recovering lost data from a failed AS/400.  Trust me, it
                > wasn't fun.  Now
                > >the point is not that the 400 failed. (We all know that
                > doesn't happen very
                > >often).  What's important is that the backup and recovery
                > plan of this
                > >organization didn't work.  Some critical files could be
                > recovered from the
                > >previous night's backup, but others had to be recovered
                > from a SAVSYS that
                > >was almost 2 weeks old at the time of the crash.
                > >
                > >I don't wish to bore any of you with the details of the
                > recovery, I just
                > >want you to think about your company and your plan.  Do
you
                > have a plan?
                > >  Have you tested it?  Have you tried a 'hot site'
                > recovery?  Are there
                > >manual procedures for the users while the system is
                > unavailable?  The
                > >information tucked away in that pretty, black box is a
                > company asset.  Are
                > >you doing all you can to protect it?
                > >
                > >Food for thought,
                > >Sue
                > >
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