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  • Subject: RE: as400 as exchange server
  • From: "Bale, Dan" <DBale@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:37:55 -0500

I really am stepping out of my comfort (knowledge) zone here, but I have to
ask.  Doesn't the scalability of the AS/400 (including model changes and
LPAR) make it a good choice for your reason #1?  Doesn't the reliability of
the AS/400 (and the options for mirroring, etc. and hot-swapping) negate the
problems of #2?  Doesn't the AS/400 have memory pools and tuning
capabilities to handle the performance issues you raised in #3?

As for #4:  God help us all.  (I have never backed down from NT bigots who
slam the AS/400.  I just state the obvious facts; never goes down, doesn't
require gurus just to keep it running, no BSODs / GPFs that require
reboots/re-IPLs, rock-solid built-in security, the list goes on and on and
on...  But I digress.)

I will just say that in my experience as a contractor in various shops, I've
never seen Novell go down, and I've been in shops where NT is cursed like
the antichrist, but in others it performs like a champ (like this shop).

Please educate me.  

- Dan Bale

-----Original Message-----
From: Schenck, Don [mailto:Don.Schenck@WL.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 9:34 PM
To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
Subject: RE: as400 as exchange server


1. As technology gets faster and cheaper, you can implement faster servers
just like that (snapping his fingers).

2. Avoid Single Point Of Failure. This can be a biggee.  We can use COM+ to
put our business objects on multiple servers. This gives load balancing and
avoids the dreaded Single Point Of Failure.

3. Performance can be spread or isolated. That is, a Departmental Server can
be used for performing queries. When Jodi in Accounting executes the "Query
From Hell" where she joins the 13 million transaction records to the 35,000
vendor table, the Exchange Server and the MTS Server keep humming along,
oblivious to Jodi's actions.

4. It's fun and geeky. Running Big Brother on a workstation to "watch the
network" is cool. That sounds like a crock, but did you ever think HOW MANY
"business decisions" are made because something's "cool" or impresses the
guy in the next seat on the flight to Chicago.

Number four sucks, but poop happens.

Peace,

-- Don Schenck


-----Original Message-----
From: boothm@earth.Goddard.edu [mailto:boothm@earth.Goddard.edu]
Sent: March 15, 2000 8:02 PM
To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
Subject: RE: as400 as exchange server


While I agree that NT bashing does get old, and that  NT has a lot going 
for it (Hey, Windows 2000 has been out a month and sold 7 1/2 million 
copies already), I am curious about the paradigm.   They have 20 NT 
servers?  20?!? That is a big number.  Why so many? 

I ask that because I see NT servers litter server farm racks like baggage 
on  an airlines baggage cart.  But then see one or maybe two AS/400 
machines off to one side doing the work of the organization. 

What is it that all of those servers are doing?  Why do they need all the 
boxes?  What is the feature they are getting by having 20 boxes?

_______________________
Booth Martin
boothm@earth.goddard.edu
http://www.spy.net/~booth
_______________________




"Schenck, Don" <Don.Schenck@WL.com>
Sent by: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
03/15/2000 03:02 PM
Please respond to MIDRANGE-L

 
        To:     "'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'" <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
        cc: 
        Subject:        RE: as400 as exchange server


Ya know, this WinNT bashing gets really old and NOT realistic.

WHY is it that my client has 20 ... COUNT 'EM TWENTY ... NT boxes and 
during
the past 30 months that I have been here they have not had one, NOT ONE,
crash.

Perhaps they know what they're doing???



-----Original Message-----
From: L. S. Russell [mailto:leslier@datrek.com]
Sent: March 15, 2000 1:13 PM
To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
Subject: Re: as400 as exchange server


> Switch from MS exchange to the AS/400! You'd have to be crazy! Never
> mind all the Microsoft bashing, exchange is great and if you put it a
> standalone server and just leave it, it will keep running and running
> and.....

Exchange server will only run until Win*** crashes and the same goes for
any product for Win***, when the OS is up your server software is up and
that is that.
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