Re: OUTFILE Formats (was: Delete Records -File Re-org)

Simon,

I had this happen doing a V2 to V3R1 and in a CISC to RISC upgrade.  That
has been awhile.

Mike Shaw

----- Original Message -----
From: Simon Coulter <shc@flybynight.com.au>
To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2000 1:00 PM
Subject: OUTFILE Formats (was: Delete Records -File Re-org)


> h
> Hello Mike,
>
> Can you give me a specific instance of the outfile changing and breaking
your code?  Are you using the correct
> technique of:
>
>  DCLF IBM-supplied template
>
>  DSPFD  FILE(SomeLib/SomeFile ) OUTPUT(*OUTFILE) OUTFILE(MyLib/MyOutFile)
> OVRDBF IBM-supplied-template TOFILE(MyLib/MyFile)
>
> or some other mechanism.  From your comments I'd guess that you create the
outfiles permanently but even there IBM
> are not supposed to make changes that break existing outfile programs (you
may not have the source).
>
> I haven't had to play in operations since VRM310 but I only recall a
single instance of outfile changes breaking my code
> and I have LOTS of stuff using outfile support.  It actually broke the
compile.  I had an RPG III program processing an
> outfile and IBM added a new field with more than 6 characters in the name
(that's not allowed by their rules either).
> Even though I didn't care about the field I had to rename it in the RPG
program.
>
> Other IBM supplied objects are different (*CMD, *SBSD, *JOBD, etc.) and a
"rebuild" CL is the correct way to handle
> any of those you change.
>
> Regards,
> Simon Coulter.
>
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> > Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 07:22:08 -0800
> > From: "Mike Shaw" <mshaw@ncal.verio.com>
> > To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> > Reply-To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> > Subject: Delete Records -File Re-org
>
> >
> > Simon,
> >
> > They do change occasionally by IBM and the routine will not run until
the
> > new file format is recognized.  It does not happen every release, but I
do
> > rebuild such things when new release is applied to the system.  Then
there
> > is no doubt about it!  We update it as we change things or in prepping
for a
> > new release via the PSP info, Memo To Users, etc.
> >
> > I have a CL that re-creates IBM objects that we have modified (changed
> > command defaults. etc) to a library after a release upgrade.  All I do
is
> > create a dup object of the file as part of that routine.  It also keeps
the
> > objects from getting old....I did find objects on an AS/400 we
de-installed
> > last month to be created on V2R3!!!!!!!!!!!   There were some sloppy
> > creatures in this place before I got here!  :-)
> >
> > If I remember correctly it issued a message that the record formats were
> > different............
> >
> > Mike Shaw
> > Senior AS/400 Technical Support
> > North American Mortgage
> > Santa Rosa, CA
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