Re: Sales Pitches

WELL said Dean,

I thought the tone was wrong too for the SAME reasons you mention. Folks REALLY
need to lighten up on this stuff. This list is INCREDIBLY well behaved compared
to some of the other non-AS/400 lists that I am on.

Chuck

DAsmussen@aol.com wrote:

> Phil,
>
> In a message dated 2/9/00 5:46:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> pike4@ix.netcom.com writes:
>
> > Bob, It's fine when you offer advice, and you do it in a professional
> manner,
> > not like some of these fellows who retell how they saved the World Trade
> > Center every few weeks. When you start selling your products here, that
> > violates the integrity of the list, and people are very concerned with
> that.
> > Look at what happens when someone suspects that they are being spammed via
> > this list.
>
> Apparently, my "chill out" message did not reach the list -- must have been
> due to the highly publicized "hacker" attacks of late >8(.  I believe that
> David explained the vendor situation quite well and succinctly -- perhaps
> less succinctly than _SHOULD_ have been necessary, but perhaps too much so
> for yourself.
>
> Avoiding the "no flame" rule is quite difficult for me at this point.  In
> mentioning "The World Trade Center Incident" as an example, you have not only
> impugned the character of one of the greatest AS/400 supporters in the world,
> but misrepresented your own position in doing so.  If you'll review the
> archives, that incident has been mentioned _FAR_ fewer times and _FAR_ less
> frequently than you imply, and then only in both a professional manner and
> response to a related question.  That man has done more for the AS/400
> community free of charge and in his spare time than most of us will while
> earning money for the same task.  His _FREE_ assistance during my first
> COMMON conference as an independent has been essential to my five years of
> success in that endeavor, and he has helped countless others in the same
> manner.  Your review of the various "Who's who on the AS/400" lists _MIGHT_
> be prudent before you begin to cast aspersions.
>
> David, David Gibbs, and _ONLY_ David Gibbs determines what "violates the
> integrity of the list."  _YOUR_ vote doesn't count, and you should e-mail him
> directly if you have a problem, rather than air your grievances before an
> audience that already tires of even _slightly_ irrelevant content.  Vendors
> saying "call me" is a sign of respect for the list, taking their discussions
> off line after everyone knows what they offer in response to the question
> rather than exposing all of us to the endless tripe that inevitably follows
> an offer of service here.
>
> And sign _ALL_ of your missives so that we don't have to research your name
> in saved e-mail...
>
> Regards,
>
> Dean Asmussen
> Enterprise Systems Consulting, Inc.
> Fuquay-Varina, NC  USA
> E-mail:  DAsmussen@aol.com
>
> "Anyone who is not liberal in their youth has no heart.  Anyone who is not
> conservative in their adulthood has no brain." -- Winston Churchill
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