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  • Subject: Re: AS/400 on alt.hacker
  • From: "Bill Paris" <bparis@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 19:50:14 -0400

Unfortunately there are methods which I won't reveal in public that
circumvent Antisniff and any other automated packet-sniffing detectors.

Hopefully Kia received the message and disabled that particular account.
Chuck has told me that he was able to get a sign-on screen as of late this
afternoon, yet I wasn't able to using 3 different ISP accounts. Perhaps Kia
is restricting access via IP ranges. The only thing in my mind that makes
this a security breach as that a UN and PW were supplied along with the
address and port. Then again, I'd also prefer a secure connection (https) vs
a non secure connection (http) to my AS/400 if I had to setup this method of
access for salesmen, etc.

Bill Paris
Sorrento Cheese Co., Inc.
716-823-6262 x376
bparis@sccmail.com


>OK Mr. Tricky Guy :-) just kidding !
>
>What about Antisniff at  http://www.l0pht.com/ which says it can "detect
>intruders who have installed "packet sniffers" on a network and are
monitoring
>network traffic" ???
>
>Chuck
>
>Ed Davidson wrote:
>
>> You forget, these are computers.  We can tell them to do something and
leave
>> them for days/months/years at a time to accomplish the task.
>>
>> You can have packet capture software capture what you specify.  Do I want
a
>> password for JoeBlow?  Tell the software to only capture packets with
>> JoeBlow in them, and then capture all packets from/to JowBlows computer.
>> Save the data to disk.  When I come back to my computer, do a find over
the
>> packets for the word JoeBlow.  You can kinda tell if the packet is a
signon
>> packet.   If it is, the password is in the same packet just under the
signon
>> code.
>>
>> Specify just to capture packets going to a specific IP address, at port
20,
>> 21, 25, and 110.  Passwords are sent in the clear on these ports.
>>
>> The question isn't if you will be hacked, the question is will the hacker
>> get in?   My site gets about 44k hits a week, about 1000 unique visitors.
>> Very small by internet standards.  About every other day there is someone
>> trying to do something to my internet server that they shouldn't.
>>
>> This information is available all over the internet.  Anyone looking for
a
>> thrill can find it and cause damage to someone.


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