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  • Subject: Re: Blobs - Now is Field Reference File
  • From: John P Carr <jpcarr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:29:05 -0400



<snip> Bruce Hoffman Jr said;
>How can controlling the manipulation of the field pale? In DDS, a
>reference field may carry a values clause, but that clause only controls
>the values allowed on a display, not the values in the field through
>other access methods, like DFU.

Cmon Bruce,  You know I was talking about the DEFINITION aspect, 
Not the CONTROL aspect of data declaration.

>>> Being able to override certain aspects of an Attribute for a particular
>> instance is very powerful.  Like DFT, TEXT, LENGTH, DECIMAL, TYPE(cast
>> function),
>> etc.   The ease of doing it, looking it up, etc still in my mind
>> is way far better than the current implementaion of User Defined Fields.
>> 
>> You get the idea, I'm sure.


>Not only do I get the idea, I have used both. I definitely prefer the
>SQL options. But then, I work across multiple databases and
>environments, so this provides a singular, common framework and allows
>me to use tools such as ERWin to deal with all environments.
>Yes, I do agree that the reference fields and their appropriate use
>walked away from everything else in the industry from the days of the 38
>to nearly the present, but as objects make their way into databases, it
>allows us the opportunity to advance along the evolutionary ladder at
>least by one more step.
>You can't push object technology on one part of the industry
>(programming languages) without allowing for that technology in
> something as fundamental as the database.
>R. Bruce Hoffman, Jr.

I'm as much as a fan of OO as you are.  And I have been a supporter
of pushing the "Business Rules" into the data base for 10 years (like Codd
said)

I even have been teaching for SQL for POWERTECH lately trumpeting those
particular points(Great classes BTW,  www.400school.com plug plug)

However the DEFINITION aspect of DDS with the Refer process,  with 
it's ability to do type casting while still referring,  is still better IMO
as
stated above.

BTW,   why didn't they automatically map the VALUES,and RANGE
DDS function into the new stuff????????

That's all
John Carr
The  "Real" EdgeTech




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