RE: Outsourcing (was IS Assets)

Thanks for the reply.  I was hoping to hear from more people who had USED
outsourcing (instead of hearing from the outsourcers themselves (although
thank you, also, for your replies))... but I guess this might be the wrong
audience to ask about outsourcing experiences?  =)

Thanks again.

-----Original Message-----
From: Van Lint, Paul [NCSBE] [mailto:pvlint@ncsbe.jnj.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 10:26 AM
To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
Subject: RE: Outsourcing (was IS Assets)


I have experiences with it and I would say : don't outsource all IS
services.  Keep strategic inside, outsource the non-strategic part.  Make
very clear what you outsource, what service, what pieces, and for what
price.  And add the what if scenario : what if I remove that part, what if I
upgrade a system, and so on. 

Paul 

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Boucher [mailto:RBoucher@stanpac.com]
Sent: Thursday, 5 August 1999 2:06
To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
Subject: Outsourcing (was IS Assets)


This reply got me thinking (always a dangerous thing to be avoided at all
costs).  Does anyone out there have any experiences with outsourcing
services for IS?  If so, are those experiences generally good or bad?  What
positives and negatives?

Just wondering...
Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: HankHeath@aol.com [mailto:HankHeath@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 2:27 PM
To: undisclosed-recipients
Subject: Re: IS Assets


To summarize responses to this point:

If you are part of the IS team asked to value the IS shop in a merger or 
acquisition, you can say 
* the hardware is worth the purchase price minus scheduled depreciation
* the purchased software is a very small fraction of the original purchase 
price
* developed software is worth whatever the purchaser sees it to be (this may

be a major feature of the transaction, as in a Web-based business, or 
meaningless, as in home grown accounting software)
* the staff is worth whatever it costs to replace the half of them that
leave.

Pretty dismal, unless you are a Web-based business. It would seem that 
generally we do not contribute much to the net worth of the company, from an

accounting perspective. At the same time, we do contribute a lot to the 
operational costs to the enterprise. 

In view of this, if I was palnning to sell a company, the first thing I
would 
do is outsource IS. I could rationalize that since there is little inherent 
value to be passed on, it makes sense to minimize the expenses by turning
the 
operations over to a professional firm. When the sale was transacted, the
new 
owner would not have to worry about software maintenance and staff turnover.

They would walk into a stable environment. Does this make sense?

Hank Heath

In a message dated 8/3/99 8:22:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
HankHeath@aol.com 
writes:

<< Here's a question that came up recently:
 
 If we are selling a business, how do we value the worth of the IS assets?
In 
 otherwords, on a balance sheet, what value is retained from IS during a 
 transfer to another owner? I can value the hardware easily. However, there 
 are also values that can be tacked on for software purchased and developed,

 the unique industry knowledge of the staff (if the new owner can retain 
 them), and the ruggedness of the environment. Has anyone a way of attaching

a 
 value to any of these last items? >>
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