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At 07:03 AM 5/19/99 -0500, you wrote:

I disagree.  IBM doesn't know.  PERIOD. 

Al


>IBM does give out the number of AS/400s because information is
>power and that power they do not wish to share.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Emilio Padilla T. <vpadilla@guate.net>
>To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 12:54 AM
>Subject: RE: Number of installed AS/400s - (Plain Text)
>
>
>> Hi,
>> I don't know why IBM don't give the actual number of operating AS/400.
>They
>> DO have the number, I tell you why:
>>
>> 1. Every time you do an Upgrade, they know that is an Upgrade (They take
>the
>> old box with them)
>> 2. Every time you loose an Load disk, a control panel or a main processor
>> you have to revalidate your System password (They are the only one's who
>can
>> give it to you).
>> 3. They have data on every system installed and their respective license.
>>
>> I tell you this because I us to be a consultant for an IBM business partner
>> who represent it in Central America and the Caribbean. (IBM left this
>> countries on early 90's)
>>
>> Emilio Padilla
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
>[mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On
>> Behalf Of Rich Duzenbury
>> Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 6:33 PM
>> To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
>> Subject: RE: Number of installed AS/400s
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
>> > [mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Rob Berendt
>> > Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 8:36 AM
>> > To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
>> > Subject: RE: Number of installed AS/400s
>> >
>> >
>> > I am kinda curious.  Are you supporting a standard package that
>> > doesn't use new OS or
>> > language function, or, do you do a lot of custom work?
>> I do both.  The standard package does change frequently and does use new OS
>> features.  However, I'm not doing much of the coding on my machine because
>> there isn't enough room or horsepower.  Because the 400 is good at backward
>> capability, the same old dial in works pretty much as it always has, even
>on
>> the newer machines.  As far as custom work goes, it's about half and half.
>> The basics get developed on my machine to a unit-tested form, and then they
>> get moved to the client box so they can test at their leisure prior to
>> production.  Small jobs oftentimes get coded directly on the client
>> processor.
>>
>> > Otherwise
>> > are you the consultant
>> > the other person mentioned that wanted to know what a date data
>> > type was?  > I am not meaning this as a flame personally.
>> Urrr - I don't know what you are referring to.  I do happen to understand a
>> little about the AS/400 database.
>>
>> > It must be expensive to be a
>> > consultant if you really want
>> > to stay up to date.
>> It can be.  In my case, because of a new product I've developed, I need a
>> machine with upgraded capabilities.  In the past, it was pretty much just
>> dial up.  Now, I expect to be pumping 10GB databases on and off the system
>> rather frequently.
>>
>> > rduz@aros.net on 05/15/99 01:59:01 AM
>> > Please respond to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com@Internet
>> > To:   MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com@Internet
>> > cc:
>> > Fax to:
>> > Subject:      RE: Number of installed AS/400s
>> >
>> > That's what I'm going to do.
>> >
>> > My trusty D04, with an RP of 1 and change, running V2R3M0, a
>> > total of 800MB storage  (400 of that taken by the OS) will have
>> > it's lights put out sometime later this year.  I've tried lots of
>> > different remote access solutions and for my customers that don't
>> > have a network (about four - still!), good ol appc passthrough is
>> > the best way to connect for on-line support.
>> >
>> > It has been running continuously with very little maintenance
>> > since early 1992.  I was glad to have the hardware support, as
>> > the tape drive went out in the machines 13th or 14th month of
>> > service, but otherwise, no problems.
>> >
>> > The new order is for a 170, but it hasn't been approved by the
>> > boss (me) yet.  Anything special to watch out for in a 170 config?
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Rich
>> >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
>> > > [mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Art Baker
>> > > Sent: Friday, May 14, 1999 5:18 PM
>> > > To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
>> > > Subject: RE: Number of installed AS/400s
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I wonder how many of these AS400 machines will be running after
>> > > 12/31/99? I
>> > > know of one company that has an old AS400 that has not been
>> > upgraded in 10
>> > > years. They are just going to turn it off at the end of this year (they
>> > > already have another system setup).
>> > > Art
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Fisher, Don [mailto:DRF@HeiligMeyers.com]
>> > > Sent: Friday, May 14, 1999 2:54 PM
>> > > To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
>> > > Subject: RE: Number of installed AS/400s
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 550,000, eh?
>> > >
>> > > I wonder, being the cynical person that I am, how many of those
>> > > "installed"
>> > > AS/400s are still running.  Does this number include all AS/400s ever
>> > > installed, including ones that have been replaced by newer models and
>> > > subsequently discarded?
>> > >
>> > > And then there's the question of whether a single AS/400 can be counted
>> > > multiple times by being installed at one site, replaced by a
>> > newer model,
>> > > installed at another site, and so on.
>> > >
>> > > Don't get me wrong folks.  I'd like to believe that number, but
>> > the use of
>> > > the word "installed" rather than "operating" makes me very suspicious.
>> > >
>> > > Donald R. Fisher, III
>> > > Project Manager
>> > > Heilig-Meyers Furniture Company
>> > > (804) 784-7500 ext. 2124
>> > > Don.Fisher@HeiligMeyers.com
>> > > <clip>
>> > > >Supposedly there are over 500,000 AS/400s installed around the world.
>> > > <clip>
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