Re[2]: Option 14 on DSPJOB/WRKJOB

     The response from your technical department seems a little squirley 
     to me.... 
     
     First, I seriously doubt that you'd need to reinstall the OS to 
     remove the PTF unless it can ONLY be applied PERM. Hopefully, 
     someONE in your company controls which PTFs are perm/temp. 
     Second, if memory serves, this PTF really only changes the default 
     view of that screen. It does not affect the ILE environment, only 
     the view on that screen; therefore, I cannot credit the notion that 
     ILE vendor code will have problems. It is true that the change was 
     originally made to accomodate ILE, but the issue is that file I/O 
     should be the dafault screen rather than the activation group 
     screen.  
     
     Disclaimer: I'm just going by memory here. If I'm wrong, please 
     remember that I'm just a lowly programmer who can't even afford his 
     Mountain Dew / M&M habit. :-/
     
     eric.delong@pmsi-services.com


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Subject: RE: Option 14 on DSPJOB/WRKJOB 
Author:  <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com > at INET_WACO
Date:    11/16/98 2:56 PM





Is this the APAR/PTF in discussion here?

APAR #SA68939
  PTF# SF39064

If so, this is the response I got from our technical dept. concerning
installing it.

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After reading the cover letter for this PTF, then talking further with IBM,
I recommend that we DO NOT install this PTF.

The command was changed to accommodate ILE programming requirements in the
operating system starting a V2R3. Problems could be encountered  if ILE
code is used and this PTF is on the system.  Any vendor code using ILE
could end abnormally.

This PTF was created and is only recommended for companies that control all
of their own programming and know that they will not be using ILE code.

If this PTF was to get applied permanently on a system and we later needed
the ILE capable version of this command back, it could require a re-install
of the operating system.
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Thanks,
Ron Hudson
Ron.Hudson@colaik.com





"Simon Coulter" <shc@flybynight.com.au> on 10/02/98 09:14:07 AM

Please respond to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com

To:   MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
cc:    (bcc: Ron Hudson/Rox/ColAik)
Subject:  RE: Option 14 on DSPJOB/WRKJOB




Hello Neil,

How many releases does it take for IBM to get the idea that this panel
should default to I/O information?  I
remember complaining about this on ESP V2R3.  I guess I wasn't vociferous
enough!  Every site I know hates the
supplied default.  They all order the PTF to 'fix' it.  How many sites need
to order it before the component
owner will wake up?

Even when using ILE the I/O information is more use than the scoping
information.  I cannot believe any
developer would complain if IBM 'un-broke' it.

I would appreciate it if one of the IBMers on this list would notify the
owner of the Display Open Files part
of the DM component and get them to fix it permanently since the official
channel doesn't seem to be working
well.

Regards,
Simon Coulter.

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> >From checking the PTF cross-reference listings it appears they haven't
> done the V4R3M0 PTF yet.  They usually wait until someone complains
> about it, so if you're on V4R3M0 and want this, call IBM service and
> tell them you want a V4R3M0 PTF that provides the function in the
> V4R2M0 PTF SF48724.
>

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