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The PC wasn't required to make it work... it was only used for configuration and diagnostics. At 06:56 PM 4/8/98 , Don wrote: > >Dave, > >Weren't they the ones that needed a PC attached to their DASD to make it >work???? THAT's what scared me! > > >-------------------------------------------------- > >On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, David Gibbs wrote: > >> I can't speak to other OEM disk vendor's offerings... but I know for a fact >> that EMC's DASD offerings were completely sub-standard... and their support >> came in a poor second (ref my previous post about CISC->RISC upgrades). >> >> Luckily, they left the midrange market... although DecisionData's support >> wasn't much better. >> >> david >> >> At 11:58 PM 4/7/98 , Neil Palmer wrote: >> >I was called one evening by an IBM rep looking for assistance for a >> >customer who was down (around Xmas and IBM was short of resources). >> >Customer had a F60 with some EMC DASD. One had failed. After about 6 >> >hours and several phone calls a service rep had finally shown up with 3 >> >spare disks. None of them worked, so he said they didn't have any more >> >in stock (this was Toronto - the biggest city in Canada, and they didn't >> >have any more disk in stock ??), and said he would try to get another >> >within a couple of days, AND LEFT THE CUSTOMER WITH A NON-USABLE SYSTEM >> >!! >> > >> >(I went in, removed the offending disk unit from the ASP - after doing a >> >re-IPL to DST again as he had left the system with the rest of the EMC >> >array not reporting in - and started them on a reload which was >> >completed by 9am the next morning). >> > >> >So, IMHO, the reason 3rd party disk is cheaper, is because IT'S NO >> >BLOODY GOOD !!!! >> >(And - also IMHO - neither is their support). >> > >> >You're taping the birth/first steps/first baseball game of your only >> >child with your Camcorder. >> >Do you buy Acme or Brand-X tape from some flea market stand because it's >> >a couple of dollars cheaper than a top quality name brand professional >> >grade tape ? >> > >> >NO ! >> > >> >You don't risk something like that by using a cheap magnetic tape, just >> >like you don't risk your company's business by trying to save a few >> >bucks on magnetic disk. >> > >> > >> >OK - I'm done ranting now - say goodnight Gracie ! >> > >> >:-) >> > >> > >> >Neil Palmer AS/400~~~~~ >> >NxTrend Technology - Canada ____________ ___ ~ >> >Thornhill, Ontario, Canada |OOOOOOOOOO| ________ o|__||= >> >Phone: (905) 731-9000 x238 |__________|_|______|_|______) >> >Cell.: (416) 565-1682 x238 oo oo oo oo OOOo=o\ >> >Fax: (905) 731-9202 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >mailto:NPalmer@NxTrend.com AS/400 The Ultimate Business Server >> >http://www.NxTrend.com >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: David Gibbs [SMTP:david@midrange.com] >> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 1998 10:27 PM >> >> To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com >> >> Subject: RE: CISC to RISC conversion of data >> >> >> >> >> >> [ >> >> << snip>> >> >> >> >> Caveat: We were running with OEM disks that were EXTREEEMLY unstable. >> >> In >> >> fact, two of the HDA assemblies was INCOMPATIBLE with the 620 (EMC >> >> should >> >> have known about that... we did ask them). >> >> >> >> I'm not blaming IBM for the problem... they sure went to bat for us >> >> (even >> >> after it was determined the problem was with OEM hardware) ... we had >> >> 2 >> >> CE's onsite almost 24 hours/day for a week ... plus level 2 support on >> >> the >> >> horn at all hours. I place the blame for the problem SQUARELY on >> >> EMC's >> >> shoulders... they had incompatible hardware and should have told us >> >> about it. >> >> >> >> >> >+--- >> >| This is the Midrange System Mailing List! >> >| To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. >> >| To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. >> >| Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com >> >+--- >> >> > >> -- >> | Internet: david@midrange.com >> | WWW: http://www.midrange.com/david >> | >> | ... A man can move mountains, a world can be turned, >> | and the greatest of distances easily spanned, >> | When the strength that's invested in making a fist >> | is transformed into shaking a hand. >> | >> | - DMRoth >> | >> | Fight Spam! 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