Re: VRPG And/Or Java

   I too am finding the language rat race to be a train without a
conductor.  I looked at 'C' but before I got comfortable with it along
comes VisualBasic and now it's all to be surpassed by Java.  Lets not
forget the ILE's and other visuals.  The costs required in compilers, PC
upgrades, TRAINING, etc. are making this all prohibitive.  My biggest
issue may be in the support of multiple languages in one shop.  IBM
makes a big point of using the 400 as a server and the economies of
system managment of one box vs external platforms.  This logic is not
being followed in the languages.  Now should I skip over Java because
the next super language is just around the corner?  Has anyone ever done
a study to see if my end users are more production in a GUI environment
over the green screen (Windows is NOT the ultimate model). Show me the
$$$ bottom line.  It wasn't that many years ago that many ventured into
fast path development, 4GLs (Synon, etc.), and remember SSA.  I never
saw any of them get more than spotted acceptance. 

   Doug Hart


On 24-Aug-97, John Carr wrote:
>VA/RPG And/Or Java


>Hey Ya'll (or Use Guys)

>If there was a discussion about VA/RPG(Visual RPG) and Java Which of
the

>next two choices(or both)would people be in favor of.

>1. VA/RPG being able to generate Java Byte Code.
>2. A conversion product that would take RPG code and generate Java
>source.

   [ much cut ]

>>Bob,
>      <<BIG snip>>
>>> The difficult part of our job as RPG programmers, is to get IBM
>>>Rochester and Toronto to understand that we like RPG, we like the AS/
>>>400. We use it because we like it and it works!  The rest of the
>>>industry may have this or that bell or whistle, but the AS/400 is
were
>>>its at. And the AS/400 means RPG, because "RPG IV, it just works!"

-- 
Doug Hart -  dhart@syra.net         President
Sr. Consulting Technical Analyst    Central New York AS/400 User Group
IBM AS/400 Technologies             www.syra.net/~dhart/cny400ug.html
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